Media thread 2022/23

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Has a second-placed team ever dominated the league so soundly?

As an American, my take on this idiocy is a bit different. These journalists honed their skills and careers on understanding the intricacies of a certain subset of red clubs -- it's where they built their relationships, focused mind share, gathered follwers/readership and leveraged knowledge.

Now they recognize they've built their carreers on a pillar of sand. But fans of red clubs have built same, so now journalists can commiserate with them (and keep gaining eyeballs) as they very slowly collectively slip out of the spotlight of success and public consciousness.

The broader-than-English football pundits -- like many (though not all) in America -- have long focused on a much larger world -- they need to cover more ground because the sport is much smaller here -- whether that's Barca/Real, the Italian leagues (still surprisingly popular here), MLS, the national team and (increasingly and especially) women's football. So we don't see stories like Wilson's or have scabs like Delaney infringing on our enjoyment.

And Americans love a winner, and we love super-heroes. In five years, if Haaland stays, City will be the biggest side in the English-speaking side of the US (because Liga MX and the Spanish clubs are still huge among LatinX population here).
 
Dodgy Gangster said:
‘Twas ever thus. Look at all the bang average rags who’ve played for England ….. Cleverly, Welbeck, Wes Brown, Phil Neville, Kieran Richardson, Smalling etc etc

Most of them were barely adequate top flight players, the kind of guys who might just about get a regular game for a team fighting relegation yet they were elevated way above the status their ability deserved by the Utd bias endemic in the English game
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Without Phil Jones that is hardly a credible list -;)
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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It's staggeringly shit masquerading as analysis. As we get better these twats get shittier. there's so much wrong with this.
1. Who said the Rags and dippers dominance was a "Golden Age" for football? Who's fucking celebrating it decades afterwards other than sad bellends and Baconface? It was 2 teams who were far better than their opposition and in part that was because they played great football and had some of the best players. They had more money because of their success and dominated. It came to an end just like ours will at some point (although I hope not for many years yet).
2. The financial stuff was proved to be crap by that simple Sky graphic of the rags spending more than us. Also, no owner investment for years - we have money because we are successful and well run.
3. Instead of celebrating and revelling in the joy and wonderful football Pep has brought they are sad and bitter but more to the point, they can't understand how City have done it - the strategy and planning etc.
 
mexico1970 said:
This is the Guardians take on the beautiful football we played yesterday.



www.theguardian.com

Manchester City’s continuing dominance feels uncomfortably routine | Jonathan Wilson

United were lucky to lose the derby by only three in a game that posed important questions about the state of football
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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Just one of the regular cunts who try to deride our success being a ****.

It should be noted the nonsense they write is slowly being picked up for the bollocks it is, one of their **** mates Evans now unable to find work, just takes another couple to realise their bullshit is no longer being listened to and that will focus their minds on maybe, just maybe writing about the actual football City play.

As for naming the red clubs period of dominance, perhaps someone could remind this particular **** all those records they set have been smashed by this City side, the greatest football side of any era in English football.

In addition, as everyone knows Pep has changed football completely in this country, something they mostly avoid stating and this at a time when every Premier League club has more money then they have ever had.

What Pep has done as a manager could be recreated on the playing side by the superstar that is Haaland, he cannot be ignored. It is early days yet for Haaland at City, but fuck me it's hard not to be in awe of him and just think what he will be like when this side get used to playing with a forward after two seasons of playing without a recognised one. Every kid no matter who they follow wants to be Haaland, he is creating expectation and excitement not seen for a long time about a player pre-match and more importantly living up to those expectations in each match, most journalists are realising this, but as ever the WhatsApp group and a couple of their hanger-ons are still clinging to their usual fantasy and made up rhetoric, scum.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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No idea what he’s on about. It could be that I’m thick or he’s just talking inane babble.

Wilson…..your a ****!

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Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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The lowest of the low that bloke is.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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Jonathan Wilson is a shite eating nonce.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Jonathan Wilson being classic Jonathan Wilson in today's Guardian.

What a sad, bitter little weasel that wanker is.


"City have won four of the past five titles. They have scored 20 times in four home league games this season. The question English football has to ask itself is: are they doing this because of the unique gifts of this particular manager and this particular set of players (and perhaps the ineptitude or questionable priorities of certain other owners who might financially compete)? Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?"
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He's asked a question which is incredibly easy to answer...

Is this a golden age, like Arsenal in the 30s, Liverpool in the 80s or United in the 90s, that will be celebrated as such by decades to come?
Answer: Yes if you're a general fan of football or involved in the game at any level.

Or is there something more insidious at work, a financial determinism that, by relegating football itself behind foreign-policy objectives and profit, erodes the game?
Answer: Yes, if you are so invested in your bias towards clubs who were successful in the period you were growing up that you are unable to form a rational judgement - even if it's your highly-paid job to do so.

He doesn't realise how close he has come in writing that article to an epiphany.
 
Stiff Little Wingers said:
It's staggeringly shit masquerading as analysis. As we get better these twats get shittier. there's so much wrong with this.
1. Who said the Rags and dippers dominance was a "Golden Age" for football? Who's fucking celebrating it decades afterwards other than sad bellends and Baconface? It was 2 teams who were far better than their opposition and in part that was because they played great football and had some of the best players. They had more money because of their success and dominated. It came to an end just like ours will at some point (although I hope not for many years yet).
2. The financial stuff was proved to be crap by that simple Sky graphic of the rags spending more than us. Also, no owner investment for years - we have money because we are successful and well run.
3. Instead of celebrating and revelling in the joy and wonderful football Pep has brought they are sad and bitter but more to the point, they can't understand how City have done it - the strategy and planning etc.
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As bad as it is all this Media Bollocks feeds into Peps Psych that he’s battling against the “system” and he loves it!! It’s all reminiscent of the Catalonia/ Espana thing and I reckon he thrives on it.
 
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
So what about his salary. The top in their field get top wages, in all walks of life.
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Panja chatting the same shit
Conveniently ignoring the fact united had the haunted waxwork, casemiro, martial, shaw, fred, lindelof on the bench yesterday. £230m for that load of shit. £850-900k a week on wages for the first two alone
Our bench cost less

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