Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

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Blue and true said:
Nope. The truth. If you don't think one of his mandates was to win at least one CL with City then I don't know what to tell you. And what do you think the narrative will be if he doesn't win it with us? It will be dragged up time immemorial to tarnish his reputation.

He doesn't leave here a complete success if he doesn't win it at least once. He can't keep failing in Europe, and we, as fans, can't keep brushing it under the carpet as though it isn't a big deal. It's as simple as that.
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It's only a 'big deal' in relation to Pep Guardiola. The owners would obviously love to win the CL at some point, but from a supporter's point of view, it wouldn't be the end of the world if we don't.
City's reputation wouldn't be tarnished if we don't win the CL, only Pep's. The club's reputation has been tarnished many times over the years and we've got over it.

Like many thousands of others I support Manchester City, not Pep, not Mansour, just Manchester City. Through thick and thin, whoever plays for us, or is the manager, coach, owner etc. I really don't care about individual reputations.
 
ysmsa said:
You're right OB1, but losing to that shower of shit that have been crap all season.

Could've finished Klopp today and their ferel fan base but they will be reinvigorated with that BS result.
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Liverpool fan I know has said that’s the best they’ve played in months.

It happens
 
danielwood5 said:
Did you think VAR was used correctly today? Was it used to correct and "clear and obvious" errors as reqyired in the guidelines? Was it used to only correct any errors the referee had missed and not to re-referee an ongoing game?
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I think the "clear and obvious" stuff is a bit of a red herring, and has taken on a mythology of its own. The ref wouldn't have seen the shirt pull in real time. He was told to look at it, and when you see it on the replay it's a foul every day of the week.
 
I don’t think we played that badly but the press was missing from the start . Thought we controlled them and contained . They kept on switching from 442 to 433 and we did ok with the ball but not off the ball were poor. Weird but the combo of silva , gundog and kdb never clicked and haaland was isolated.
If we had foden haaland and alvarez pressing from the front would’ve been fantastic.

Shit happens but fuck var.
come on city
 
Hope the Blues who went to Klanfield get home safe.

Everyone in that shit hole could star as a paid extra in a "Hills Have Eyes" movie.

Finding someone who lives there without 6 fingers is an achievement.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
The usual bullshit whenever we lose a game of "Pep overthinking".

No. He didn't. He played the same system we've been playing for weeks. We were. just poor, and lost a tight game due to fine margins.

Shit happens.
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Agree, except that I wouldn't even say we were poor. We were easily the better team and stats back it up. We suffer mostly from having a bunch of fans who think we have a God-given right to win every match, and for some unknown reason haven't yet figured out that it just doesn't work like that.
 
coolcity said:
It's only persistent uncertainty and insecurity from the fans on here. Nothing wrong with the team, they've proven it year after year.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't have the best record against the other big six teams over the past five years.

But football is won and lost on small margins, and any of the other big six, let alone league, are packed with world class players who don't just roll over for us.
 
Klopp did a great job yesterday. Taylor knew he was reffing the plucky underdogs against the filthy state owned oil club. He knew he had to even up the unfair advantage
 
We have been beaten by mid table and teams lower in the last few years,it will happen again I am sure but we move on and get behind the likes we have never seen before.C'mon City.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I think the "clear and obvious" stuff is a bit of a red herring, and has taken on a mythology of its own. The ref wouldn't have seen the shirt pull in real time. He was told to look at it, and when you see it on the replay it's a foul every day of the week.
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It is, I think Pep’s argument is that the shirt pull was no more serious than any of the other incidents he allowed to go unpunished.
 
coolcity said:
Agree, except that I wouldn't even say we were poor. We were easily the better team and stats back it up. We suffer mostly from having a bunch of fans who think we have a God-given right to win every match, and for some unknown reason haven't yet figured out that it just doesn't work like that.
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I think the supporters being frustrated that yet again we have failed to win there is understandable.
 
jollylescott said:
None of us will ever know as much about the game as Pep. But it seems to me that when you have a winning formula you don’t change it. Jack has been on fire and doesn’t get a look in, and we looked so disjointed reverting to 3 at the back.

Pep needed to set out out team with courage and self belief. Instead we looked nervous and uncertain most of the game.

Very disappointing but credit to Bernie, he gave it everything.
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milner must have been delighted when he saw our team. down to pep that, his use or NONuse of subs is a disgrace
 
SidJames said:
He has got a point.

Fabinho was obstructing Haaland from the Ball, and already falling back.

Taylor likely saw the little Shirt Tug right then, and ignored it.

No foul...

No free kick awarded.

We go on to score a goal from another phase of play.

Ref instructed by VAR to go and take a look at 2 issues 1st issue being Ball under control in keeper Hands. It wasn't.

They go back even further to the Shirt tug, the Shirt Tug the ref likely saw but let go, because he wasn't going to blow for it.

Goal disallowed.

All about the consistency for me.

We see this behaviour happening in 9/10 corners, and open play all game, Goals are scored. Referees are not instructed to go to VAR monitors to disallow a Goal for a Shirt Tug in a different phase of play.

Some might call it Paranoia. I feel when we play the cartel teams all our goals are forensically analyzed to find any reason at all to disallow them.

Next week will see goals scored, that involve a small Shirt Tug in the build up play ignored. Zero VAR intervention, Goal given.

They actually changed Hand Ball rules after robbing us.

VAR gives a fail safe level to in game corruption.

And we are more often than not on the receiving end of it.
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Some might say you support the agenda clan.

Btw I like to add to your comment that super slow motion does make reality look unreal. Haaland pulled the shirt or at least held it in his hand for a fraction of a second. It looked ages in super slow motion.

Imho never a foul or of any influence on the goal. But there you go. And the only aspect VAR has changed in football is discussing VAR decision instead of discussing the refs decision.
 
Bozzie said:
It is, I think Pep’s argument is that the shirt pull was no more serious than any of the other incidents he allowed to go unpunished.
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Well, yes, but there was only two goals where this could be checked!

But I share Pep's frustration with it all. It feels inconsistent, but once the VAR comes into play if he's not seen the shirt pull, and I didn't see it either, then we were always in trouble.
 
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