Media thread 2022/23

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city2 said:
What a rubbish start to this competition, turned on to watch the ceremony and it’s not covered by either stations. I see all the usual media are out there who have been slated this being held in Qatar since it was announced but here they are all with their noses in the trough hypocrisy of the highest. I would have thought more if they had all boycotted the whole competition if they are so righteous about human rights.
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I'm sure getting paid wads of money for their month long stint turned their heads, and a collective human rights " fuck it"
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Top marks to Kelly Cates for shoehorning a Virgil Van Dipper reference into a discussion about England and Wales...
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Ha Ha...
Could be worth a new thread of how the media manage to introduce a contrived Dipper reference to any World Cup match ?
I nominate Danny "the gargoyle" Murphy to win that completion, hands/claws/paws down...
 
The BBC is unfit to broadcast live football which it rarely does these days. The organisation has become so politicised it is incapable of providing impartial balanced coverage. Criticism of human rights abuses in Qatar is not valid unless it mentions the broader context ie that US, British, and European companies work extensively in Qatar, especially in the construction industry. Will the BBC preface the England match against Iran with a statement about how the current regime in Iran is currently murdering thousands of its citizens (mostly female)? I doubt it and that's the problem with being selective about such issues. Where do you draw the line?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The BBC is unfit to broadcast live football which it rarely does these days. The organisation has become so politicised it is incapable of providing impartial balanced coverage. Criticism of human rights abuses in Qatar is not valid unless it mentions the broader context ie that US, British, and European companies work extensively in Qatar, especially in the construction industry. Will the BBC preface the England match against Iran with a statement about how the current regime in Iran is currently murdering thousands of its citizens (mostly female)? I doubt it and that's the problem with being selective about such issues. Where do you draw the line?
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It confuses me as to why these migrant workers are only at risk of unscrupulous working practice whilst building stadia. While their brethren are perfectly safe from harm, maiming or death whilst building 6 star hotels and million pound apartments for the very people who shout foul to stay in.
 
its grim up north said:
It confuses me as to why these migrant workers are only at risk of unscrupulous working practice whilst building stadia. While their brethren are perfectly safe from harm, maiming or death whilst building 6 star hotels and million pound apartments for the very people who shout foul to stay in.
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Many construction sites and many of the sub-contracters across the entire Gulf region are run and managed by Western companies. Lots of them are household names. Why don't the media call some of them out?
 
FIFA has form for awarding World Cups to countries that persecute gay men, 1966 for one. Anyone who objects to Quaters human rights should not be there and that includes the players. The FA should have announced we would not be taking part the moment this ridiculous corrupt decision was reached. I for one would rather we had not participated and had our usual league season. Will I be cheering England tomorrow you bet, just shows what a hypocrite I am.
 
its grim up north said:
It confuses me as to why these migrant workers are only at risk of unscrupulous working practice whilst building stadia. While their brethren are perfectly safe from harm, maiming or death whilst building 6 star hotels and million pound apartments for the very people who shout foul to stay in.
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When they give figures of deaths, it's for all migrant workers and all causes of deaths. So if an Indian accountant has a heart attack and dies, that's a migrant worker death. In these thousands of reported deaths, many are from natural causes and many have occurred on construction projects unrelated to the World Cup.

You can certainly question the methodology of the Qataris in classifying these stadium-related deaths as being somewhat dubious but the fact that these deaths have occurred does not automatically mean that they've been a result of mistreatment, as journalists and others would have us believe. If you counted all deaths at work in the UK, regardless of the cause, the numbers would probably appear to be significant but correlation is not causation.

If you look at the situation at Twitter, where Musk is apparently giving out ultimatums about work intensity, many of the people working there who don't (or can't) resign will be migrant workers on H1B visas. Like the kafala system in the Middle East, these workers are absolutely tied to their companies and resigning effectively means the loss of their visa, and therefore their right to remain in the USA. Yet no one ever talks about that as 'slavery' or abuse of workers' rights.
 
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Spurs quarter 69 said:
FIFA has form for awarding World Cups to countries that persecute gay men, 1966 for one. Anyone who objects to Quaters human rights should not be there and that includes the players. The FA should have announced we would not be taking part the moment this ridiculous corrupt decision was reached. I for one would rather we had not participated and had our usual league season. Will I be cheering England tomorrow you bet, just shows what a hypocrite I am.
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Correct and why they wouldn’t pull out!? Yep MONEY
 
They’ve all gone over there because if they didn’t they’d have no job over here for 6 weeks because once Lineker decided to go that’s it are Shearer Alex Scot and the rest going to sit in a bbc room linked to Qatar to analyse the game? Of bet they took there good clubs there trunks costume for the pool and the golf course!

Bet they’ll be all on here while they are living it up for 6 weeks!

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Prestwich_Blue said:
When they give figures of deaths, it's for all migrant workers and all causes of deaths. so if an Indian accountant has a heart attack and dies, that's a migrant worker death. In these thousands of reported deaths, many are from natural causes and many have occurred on construction projects unrelated to the World Cup.

You can certainly question the methodology of the Qataris in classifying these stadium-related deaths as being somewhat dubious but the fact that these deaths have occurred does not automatically mean that they've been a result of mistreatment, as journalists and others would have us believe. If you counted all deaths at work in the UK, regardless of the cause, the numbers would probably appear to be significant but correlation is not causation.

If you look at the situation at Twitter, where Musk is apparently giving out ultimatums about work intensity, many of the people working there who don't (or can't) resign will be migrant workers on H1B visas. Like the kafala system in the Middle East, these workers are absolutely tied to their companies and resigning effectively means the loss of their visa, and therefore their right to remain in the USA. Yet no one ever talks about that as 'slavery' or abuse of workers' rights.
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Spot-on. This deaths story is fake news. The 6,500 figure relates to a ten-year period and is for all deaths of all migrant workers from all causes. There are 2.7 million migrant workers in Qatar so a figure of 650 deaths a year from all causes is very small. The story started in the Guardian and has become twisted and distorted the more it has been repeated by lazy journalists who don't check the figures.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The BBC is unfit to broadcast live football which it rarely does these days. The organisation has become so politicised it is incapable of providing impartial balanced coverage. Criticism of human rights abuses in Qatar is not valid unless it mentions the broader context ie that US, British, and European companies work extensively in Qatar, especially in the construction industry. Will the BBC preface the England match against Iran with a statement about how the current regime in Iran is currently murdering thousands of its citizens (mostly female)? I doubt it and that's the problem with being selective about such issues. Where do you draw the line?
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Im sure they’ll go with - pointing out that 27 per cent of children in the worlds fifth biggest economy live in poverty! Or maybe not.
 
nmc said:
Im sure they’ll go with - pointing out that 27 per cent of children in the worlds fifth biggest economy live in poverty! Or maybe not.
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Or perhaps the BBC will discuss the estimated 136,000 victims of modern slavery in the UK according to official stats.

Modern slavery in the UK - Office for National Statistics

The hidden nature of modern slavery makes producing an accurate prevalence measure difficult. This article explores the issue and brings together data sources linked to modern slavery from a range of organisations.
www.ons.gov.uk

That's the problem with this sort of virtue signalling. You don't know where to stop.
 
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