United Thread - 2022/23

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Bald fraud said:
But if they become state owned their oil money will be clean oil money obviously!
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If North Korea bought these cunts the goal posts would move that fast... They have a habit of drawing their own lines of what's right to suit them, the media do the same. You'd think Abu Dhabi went back in a time machine and caused the Holocaust when you read these posts from the virtue signalers slating our owners. Lets look at their owners, pumped money into the Trump campaign... "But but they pump money into all of them" is normally their answer.

Barack Obama:

" There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

The use of drones aligned with Obama’s ambition to keep up the war against al Qaeda while extricating the US military from intractable, costly ground wars in the Middle East and Asia. But the targeted killing programme has drawn much criticism."

www.thebureauinvestigates.com

Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush

The use of drones aligned with Obama’s ambition to keep up the war against al Qaeda while extricating the US military from intractable ground wars, but…
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And I didn't even bring up the tax dodging from your shitstain of a club, or the shit way your club treated past players. Not even mentioned Cantona. This is just the tip.

So next time you wankers take a pot at our top owners, grab a mirror from the wall and have a good fucking look at it.
 
The perfect fumble said:
This is about the rag sale in the business section of the BBC....

Buyers from the Middle East​

There have been a few high-profile takeovers of European clubs from investors linked to sovereign nations.
Manchester United's rivals Manchester City are owned by the Abu Dhabi United Group, while Newcastle United have recently been taken over by a consortium led by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.
Paris Saint-Germain are owned by Qatar Sports Investments and there may be other Gulf nations interested in Manchester United.
Football finance expert Mr Maguire told the BBC there were countries in the region that have "access to funds that could be used" to meet the Glazers' high price.
However, as widely reported, such deals can lead to moral and ethical dilemmas for supporters.
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Widely reported yes, but true?....No
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Well fuck me, I was about to reply that the BBC couldn't even spell "dilemna" properly and then I find out I have been spelling it wrong all my life. Is that right? Any linguists out there?

Apparently it's "dilemma" from a greek root di+lemma twice+premise. Who knew?
 
KentBlue said:
A nasty, vulgar bully who used his and Gill's influence to manipulate the rules of the game. A man who was apparently able to pick and choose which referee he would permit to enforce HIS rules, and HIS rules only. Any dissension in the ranks and you're out. Woe betide anybody whose opinion differed to his - this is a man who idolised Josef Stalin, don't forget.
A club that could -and did, frequently- outspend every other club in football history: if someone offered a million for a decent player, that foul obscenity of a club would counter-offer with 4 million. And that's how it was until Jack Walker splashed the cash at Blackburn, and Wenger turned up at Arsenal with a new footballing philosophy that put the dictator's nose well and truly out of joint.

When nobody can compete with your wealth, when every referee and linesman in the league are happy to sell their morals and their pride just so that the Govan tyrant might allow them back to ref another game, when every media outlet, every journalist and footballing pundit is happy to look away when your players commit GBH to opposing players without any legal retribution, winning trophies is a piece of piss.
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Wonderful.
 
Blue Mist said:
Just a quick update, my proposal to put together a consortium to buy the rags is gathering pace.
So far I have had firm offers of a score, which let's face it, is more than the rags get most weekends, 3p and a curly wurly. I'm just going to recheck the posts in case I e missed anyone off but all I will say is, my offer to join me in buying the rags will close Thursday night as I want to put the bid in when the New York Stock Exchange opens Friday.
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I'll donate 5p if I can have the curly-wurly.
 
The perfect fumble said:
This is about the rag sale in the business section of the BBC....

Buyers from the Middle East​

There have been a few high-profile takeovers of European clubs from investors linked to sovereign nations.
Manchester United's rivals Manchester City are owned by the Abu Dhabi United Group, while Newcastle United have recently been taken over by a consortium led by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.
Paris Saint-Germain are owned by Qatar Sports Investments and there may be other Gulf nations interested in Manchester United.
Football finance expert Mr Maguire told the BBC there were countries in the region that have "access to funds that could be used" to meet the Glazers' high price.
However, as widely reported, such deals can lead to moral and ethical dilemmas for supporters.
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Widely reported yes, but true?....No
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We are partly owned by…..Newton Investments, not ADUG any more. I still dont know whether ADUG has just changed its name or has transferred the CFG assets to Newton, leaving ADUG with other assets.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
True to a point , not disagreeing with anything. But Citys owners wanted us for the whole package , to work with the council to re-gen the area, to get in roads into new york and do the same there etc etc
I think, with us , the football club is kinda a by product, succesful team, bit of prestige whilst making billions alongside it
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We were the key to unlocking the door to huge property development opportunities and other civil engineering projects….… Wait…No, we were the vehicle for sportswashing, profit didn’t come into it.
 
KS55 said:
We were the key to unlocking the door to huge property development opportunities and other civil engineering projects….… Wait…No, we were the vehicle for sportswashing, profit didn’t come into it.
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This is what 99% of foitball fans dont get, and why we will sail off onto the distance when it comes to income… no one gets it!!
 
PSG were bought for around £50m if my google sources are correct
We were bought for £210m
Newcastle £305m

Good investments and the clubs will all be worth a lot more now

Would be hard to say the same when a club is valued at 5 or 6 billion!

Also how much do the united fans who are wanting new owners want to spend in the transfer market? Given that they’ve spent well over a billion in the past year and not get very far with it
 
KS55 said:
We are partly owned by…..Newton Investments, not ADUG any more. I still dont know whether ADUG has just changed its name or has transferred the CFG assets to Newton, leaving ADUG with other assets.
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With this and the intermediate holding for MCFC I can't help wondering if the owner is tidying up some structural issues to remove some questions about ownership, maybe to do with the PL investigation? May be nothing to do with that, of course.
 
halfcenturyup said:
With this and the intermediate holding for MCFC I can't help wondering if the owner is tidying up some structural issues to remove some questions about ownership, maybe to do with the PL investigation? May be nothing to do with that, of course.
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We don’t know quite what is happening. CFG Midco is for what?
 
KS55 said:
We don’t know quite what is happening. CFG Midco is for what?
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True. And potentially important. Maybe some intermediary shareholdings to do with the campus/stadium/collar site developments? People who want a piece of the MCFC action without all the other CFG stuff? Entertainment companies perhaps?

Interesting that the Chinese investors aren't directors in Midco. Space for a few more?
 
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