United Thread - 2022/23

[Colin Bells Boots]

I know I'm an old cynic but I just don't think the Glazers have any intention of selling up: this is a PR exercise, nothing more. The Ladyboy, with his posturing and Hollywood-style tantrums, has brought negative publicity to the rags and they need some kind of distraction while there's no Premier League football. What better way than this to shift the attention?
Add to it all some vague gesturing about signing Mbappe and Bellingham and everyone will have forgotten all about the preening ponce and the shambolic end to his return to the rags.

My first thoughts when it arose KB - distraction tactics from the club and friendly media whores.

Glazers enjoy their cashcow too much to give it up.

 

[bluemc1]

6 to 8 billion for what. Run down old dump with a shit training base.

It’s like that now but with a billionaire owner willing to plough money in and not taking out like ours, PSG and Newcastle they will be a big problem, if there brand gets going again ffp won’t be a problem to them and will be able to outbid anyone

 

[waspish]

I know I'm an old cynic but I just don't think the Glazers have any intention of selling up: this is a PR exercise, nothing more. The Ladyboy, with his posturing and Hollywood-style tantrums, has brought negative publicity to the rags and they need some kind of distraction while there's no Premier League football. What better way than this to shift the attention?
Add to it all some vague gesturing about signing Mbappe and Bellingham and everyone will have forgotten all about the preening ponce and the shambolic end to his return to the rags.

Yep and any potential buyer they could just say they not reached our valuation of 10b

 

[waspish]

It’s like that now but with a billionaire owner willing to plough money in and not taking out like ours, PSG and Newcastle they will be a big problem, if there brand gets going again ffp won’t be a problem to them and will be able to outbid anyone

Always down to the player where he wants to go and players who rather go somewhere for any xtra 100k can do one

 

[deano ou812]

As much as it takes to buy success.
If they and City have spent £1.5 billion over the past 10-12 years and the Glazers taken a similar amount, then their fans want owners who would have spent £3 billion on the team under the same circumstances.
They bought almost all their success in the PL era (as did City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc) and don't like it when other clubs can equal their spending.

This, they want things to be like when baconface was in charge and spending money money money,they think they have a Devine right to be up there challenging regardless,the entitlement is off the scale.

 

[KS55]

I know I'm an old cynic but I just don't think the Glazers have any intention of selling up: this is a PR exercise, nothing more. The Ladyboy, with his posturing and Hollywood-style tantrums, has brought negative publicity to the rags and they need some kind of distraction while there's no Premier League football. What better way than this to shift the attention?
Add to it all some vague gesturing about signing Mbappe and Bellingham and everyone will have forgotten all about the preening ponce and the shambolic end to his return to the rags.

I do not know if it is true, but I have heard it said that the Glazer Malls are losing money, so they might actually need to sell.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Well fuck me, I was about to reply that the BBC couldn't even spell "dilemna" properly and then I find out I have been spelling it wrong all my life. Is that right? Any linguists out there?

Apparently it's "dilemma" from a greek root di+lemma twice+premise. Who knew?

Yep, me too, posted over 11 years ago.(only seemed the other day)

Re: dialema



Don't usually like correcting grammatical or spelling errors on here but since there are loads of people having a go, no matter what you were taught in school, the correct spelling is "dilemma." The word is derived from the Greek di (twice) and lemma (assumption).
If you look in any OED/ Chambers dictionary since they were first published it's always been 'dilemma'.

Anyhow, Goldenbridge getting giddy over the Golden Balls connection.[/QUOTE]

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I do not know if it is true, but I have heard it said that the Glazer Malls are losing money, so they might actually need to sell.

The problem is that there is always so much hype and bullshit swirling around the rags that it is hard to see below the surface sometimes.

You could be correct, and there is a deeper seated issue in this case, but again sorting the wheat from the chaff is the hard part.

the rags " signing ................. you name it " is the typical , rag supporting lemming type headlines we are used to.

 

[Paladin]

This is about the rag sale in the business section of the BBC....

Buyers from the Middle East​

There have been a few high-profile takeovers of European clubs from investors linked to sovereign nations.
Manchester United's rivals Manchester City are owned by the Abu Dhabi United Group, while Newcastle United have recently been taken over by a consortium led by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.
Paris Saint-Germain are owned by Qatar Sports Investments and there may be other Gulf nations interested in Manchester United.
Football finance expert Mr Maguire told the BBC there were countries in the region that have "access to funds that could be used" to meet the Glazers' high price.
However, as widely reported, such deals can lead to moral and ethical dilemmas for supporters.
................

Widely reported yes, but true?....No

From 25 July 2021, CFG’s ultimate parent undertaking is Newton Investment and Development LLC.

About City Football Group

Established in May 2013, the CFG approach ensures that every club remains authentic to its fans and community, plays entertaining football and benefits from being part of a global organisation that applies the world's best expertise on and off the pitch.

www.cityfootballgroup.com

Edit. @KS55 has already pointed this out. Not like the BBC to publish stuff without checking their facts first though, is it?

 

[Blue Mist]

I do not know if it is true, but I have heard it said that the Glazer Malls are losing money, so they might actually need to sell.

The rags are making them money. It makes no business sense to sell your cash cow to prop up the ones that aren't. Sell the malls keep the rags.

 

[Blue Mist]

The truth is, the Glazers looked on BM and saw the dip thread was catching up on the number of posts made. The simple solution, in fact the only solution, was to sack ronny and pretend they were selling.

Nice one Malkys lads

 

[KS55]

The rags are making them money. It makes no business sense to sell your cash cow to prop up the ones that aren't. Sell the malls keep the rags.

Yup, but there is no one wanting to buy malls any more. Busted flush. On line is killing them.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

And what they are going to find out is that no one will pay £6 billion for a business with years of toxic administration, a decrepit infrastructure and a stadium that needs replacing.

 

[Grassland Blue]

PSG were bought for around £50m if my google sources are correct
We were bought for £210m
Newcastle £305m

Good investments and the clubs will all be worth a lot more now

Would be hard to say the same when a club is valued at 5 or 6 billion!

Also how much do the united fans who are wanting new owners want to spend in the transfer market? Given that they’ve spent well over a billion in the past year and not get very far with it

FFP will hamper their transfer activity.

Oh, wait - I forgot.
It's the SCUM!
Different rules apply.

 

[Bluesince1979]

It’s like that now but with a billionaire owner willing to plough money in and not taking out like ours, PSG and Newcastle they will be a big problem, if there brand gets going again ffp won’t be a problem to them and will be able to outbid anyone

They outbid everyone now. They outbid us, who supposedly can buy any player in the world, on numerous occasions

Its been the way theyve spent it thats been the problem.
Theyll get it right again eventually

Whats the saying about monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare?

 

[laserblue]

Yup, but there is no one wanting to buy malls any more. Busted flush. On line is killing them.

Less chance of getting shot by shopping online.

 

[MP71]

Pure olive oil, naturally.....

Organic surely?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

So, who will the Rags be happy to buy them?
Some pretty tight criteria for them.

1. Must have in the region of £5 billion to hand over to the Glazers.
2. Must have fuck knows how much to pay off their debt.
3. Must have a shitload more to spend on the stadium and training facilities.
4. Must buy the club outright without leveraging the debt.
5. Must not take any dividends out of the club.
6. Must be seen to invest their own money into the club.
7. Must not rename the stadium.
8. Must not be Arab.
9. Must not be Russian.
10. Must not be Chinese.
11. Must not be American again.
12. Must not be from a country with any sort of Human Rights issues.
13. Must be happy to accept that any time they lose a game they will think they bought Norwich.
14. Must be happy to have abuse directed at them every time they fail to win the league / Trophy.
15. Must be happy to pay a raging alcoholic £2million a year to sit in the stands.
16. Must be prepared to live in the past instead of looking to the future.

I'm sure there is a queue a mile long of suitable owners they will be happy with.

I've got a feeling there will be some moral gymnastics taking place,

Brilliant, loving no.15.

 

[dadnlad]

And what they are going to find out is that no one will pay £6 billion for a business with years of toxic administration, a decrepit infrastructure and a stadium that needs replacing.

Qatar are give stadiums away after world cup and theres loads of car parks in trafford park to build it

 

[CC1]

So, who will the Rags be happy to buy them?
Some pretty tight criteria for them.

1. Must have in the region of £5 billion to hand over to the Glazers.
2. Must have fuck knows how much to pay off their debt.
3. Must have a shitload more to spend on the stadium and training facilities.
4. Must buy the club outright without leveraging the debt.
5. Must not take any dividends out of the club.
6. Must be seen to invest their own money into the club.
7. Must not rename the stadium.
8. Must not be Arab.
9. Must not be Russian.
10. Must not be Chinese.
11. Must not be American again.
12. Must not be from a country with any sort of Human Rights issues.
13. Must be happy to accept that any time they lose a game they will think they bought Norwich.
14. Must be happy to have abuse directed at them every time they fail to win the league / Trophy.
15. Must be happy to pay a raging alcoholic £2million a year to sit in the stands.
16. Must be prepared to live in the past instead of looking to the future.

I'm sure there is a queue a mile long of suitable owners they will be happy with.

I've got a feeling there will be some moral gymnastics taking place,

Ratcliffe is able to do all of that. He’s loaded; from Manchester; is a rag; loves the glory.

I believe he’ll also be able to invest another billion on the rag’s infrastructure as its outside FFP ( not that FFP applies to rags of course)

Think he’ll be the only bidder at the price the glazers want & will get it all - sadly.