FA confirm Southgate will stay on until after Euro 2024 (p 101)

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And Southgate took Middlesbrough from being an established Premier League side for 14 years and recent UEFA cup finalists down to the championship. They have never recovered since.

ask any of their fans if they would take Southgate back and they would tell you to piss off.

So if that’s not even his level, then England certainly isn’t
I can’t argue with you but don’t mistake my post for being pro-Southgate.
 
Am old enough to remember the clamour for Bobby Robson to get replaced - by Graham Taylor(!)

"Southgate out" has the same vibe. By historic standards he's done a fantastic job as England manager. Beware what you wish for!
Yeah he has won nothing but did beat some poor teams along the way
 
Not really down to Southgate tonight. He has built a team that is not happy to just get to the QF. Fine margins - shite ref, missed pen., great 2nd French cross and header.
Sterling sub was the only real dropped bollock. Grealish was obvious sub.
Gutted but not suicidal.
 
Bear in mind if he does fuck off, we’ll have to listen to him drone on for years in the umpteen punditry gigs he’ll get cos one things for sure, he ain’t getting another job in football this side of Saudi Arabia or China.
 
Not really down to Southgate tonight. He has built a team that is not happy to just get to the QF. Fine margins - shite ref, missed pen., great 2nd French cross and header.
Sterling sub was the only real dropped bollock. Grealish was obvious sub.
Gutted but not suicidal.
I'm not happy I don't shag Angelina Jolie it doesn't make me George Clooney
 
Bear in mind if he does fuck off, we’ll have to listen to him drone on for years in the umpteen punditry gigs he’ll get cos one things for sure, he ain’t getting another job in football this side of Saudi Arabia or China.
Bluehammer wants him to be the next west ham manager but I think Barca madrid city bayern will be calling .
 
Am old enough to remember the clamour for Bobby Robson to get replaced - by Graham Taylor(!)

"Southgate out" has the same vibe. By historic standards he's done a fantastic job as England manager. Beware what you wish for!

Don’t remember any particular clamour for Taylor to get the job. I seem to remember Clough or Venables were the names most fans were talking about.
 
Not really down to Southgate tonight. He has built a team that is not happy to just get to the QF. Fine margins - shite ref, missed pen., great 2nd French cross and header.
Sterling sub was the only real dropped bollock. Grealish was obvious sub.
Gutted but not suicidal.
Even the Sterling sub you never know. Pep put him on in his last game for City and it worked then.
 
We are ranked 5th and France 4th in the world rankings - we got exactly to where we should have got. In the last 3 tournaments we have failed to beat anyone ranked higher than us but have lost to teams lower than us. Southgate is therefore under achieving. As our old friend Rafa would have said those are the facts.
 
Not really down to Southgate tonight. He has built a team that is not happy to just get to the QF. Fine margins - shite ref, missed pen., great 2nd French cross and header.
Sterling sub was the only real dropped bollock. Grealish was obvious sub.
Gutted but not suicidal.
Grealish came ob with two minutes to go. What are you expecting him to do in that time?
 
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