Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Prophet of Doom said:
There are a couple of clubs that have pitches that slide outside the stadium for better sunlight.

But the Madrid one stacks in levels below. This would never be possible at the Etihad due to level of the pitch already.

Not quite sure why Madrid bothered with a retractable roof. The Amsterdam stadium and Cardiff stadium have them but they both have a virtually no events in them during the winter ( which require an indoor setting ) other than football. So what purpose does the roof serve ? It certainly doesn’t make a big revenue difference.
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They don’t have winter events due to them not having a retractable pitch, that’s what I think anyway. Ajax aren’t going to let Taylor Swift ruin their immaculate pitch half way through a season.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
They don’t have winter events due to them not having a retractable pitch, that’s what I think anyway. Ajax aren’t going to let Taylor Swift ruin their immaculate pitch half way through a season.
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No retractable pitch is an issue - but both Amsterdam and Cardiff knew that when building their roofs. Cardiff less so as they have very few events and don’t have to worry about the pitch being good enough for football.

They also don’t hold ‘indoor’ winter events cause there is very little demand for it in Winter.

Stadium tours in Europe are organised around a schedule playing a different stadium every 2 days. The amount of logistics, equipment and personnel involved to play a one off winter stadium gig would not be viable. Especially when compared to delaying 6 months and doing a proper stadium tour of multiple stadiums around Europe.
 
Shouldn't be long until we see the plans for the redevelopment. They said early in the new year so shouldn't be later than end of January. Very excited to see what happens with the North Stand. Hopefully extended second tier
 
MrCheeseGrater said:
Shouldn't be long until we see the plans for the redevelopment. They said early in the new year so shouldn't be later than end of January. Very excited to see what happens with the North Stand. Hopefully extended second tier
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The young Sheikh is coming across to do a private unveiling for Slyman Stone & Miggsy.

I read it in the MUEN so it must be reet.
 
I suspect that extending the North Stand to match the South will be about as far as can be done with the existing stadium. The cost of extending the East or West Stand and putting a new roof while maintaining playing at the Arena would cost eye-watering amounts of cash.

Real Madrid took advantage of lockdown to develop the Bernabéu while playing at their training ground. Spurs built a new stadium from scratch while playing at Wembley.

If City ever go for a more futuristic stadium, it is likely to be a new build on an ajacent site somewhere?
 
MrCheeseGrater said:
Shouldn't be long until we see the plans for the redevelopment. They said early in the new year so shouldn't be later than end of January. Very excited to see what happens with the North Stand. Hopefully extended second tier
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Early in the new year means in the first 4 months in my mind, you've possibly set yourself up for some frustration there.
 
JGL07 said:
I suspect that extending the North Stand to match the South will be about as far as can be done with the existing stadium. The cost of extending the East or West Stand and putting a new roof while maintaining playing at the Arena would cost eye-watering amounts of cash.

Real Madrid took advantage of lockdown to develop the Bernabéu while playing at their training ground. Spurs built a new stadium from scratch while playing at Wembley.

If City ever go for a more futuristic stadium, it is likely to be a new build on an ajacent site somewhere?
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No idea how you come to those conclusions in your first paragraph. I'm leaning towards an extended NS 2nd tier although the OCD part of my mind would prefer a mirrored SS. Regardless, the outside looks like it won't be the same with links to City Square and the hotel perhaps.

I've no doubt that they'll extend the E & W stands at some point, adding rows at the very back and extending the 'wings' at each end, joining up (more or less) with the N & S stands. The roof has to be replaced at some point anyway. You can't possibly believe that City would play 1st team games at the Mini Etihad if that's what you mean.

Did Real Madrid bring it forward? It takes a lot of planning to build something like that and you can't just suddenly change the schedule. Spurs built half of theirs while still at WHL.

Manchester Council and Sports England would have the final say in whether a new stadium ever got built but I can pretty much guarantee that it won't be in my life time at least.
 
2015.

Commercial terms of Etihad Stadium rental by Manchester City​

Richard Hunt made this Freedom of Information request to Manchester City Council

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Commercial terms of Etihad Stadium rental by Manchester City - a Freedom of Information request to Manchester City Council

Please send me a copy of the rental contract between (presumably) the City Council (or an entity set up by the council for the purpose) and Manchester City FC, regarding the stadium now known as the Etihad stadium. For clarification I seek to learn only the broad commercial terms of the...
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Reply from MCC with details.

Dear Mr Hunt

Re: - Request for Information - Commercial terms of Etihad Stadium rental by Manchester City - reference number SOL/A33E8J

Thank you for your request for information, which was received by Manchester City Council on 7th October 2015 and has been considered under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (“the 2000 Act”). Please accept my apologies for the delay which was a result of an oversight.


Hunt SOLA33E8J.doc

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Hope the plans are shown in early January so we can finally see what they have come up with. Not that they aren’t done already mind , it would have been good to be discussing the official plans over the Christmas period
 
nmc said:
Don‘t think they are banned but you can’t play with them closed.
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Which to me seems like another rule, made by the powers that be, which is like the way VAR is run. I have been to games including ours at Gelsenkirchen? where a sliding roof was closed, also rugby games at the Millennium Stadium and I think a closed roof adds to the atmosphere keeping the noise in. Or is it just certain clubs are against them as they would not spend the money on one. If those who say there would be no return on the money needed as the reason then I disagree as it is comfort for the paying supporters that count for me because in reality the toilets do not give value for money but they need to be there for the comfort of supporters and somewhere for the smokers to have their quick drag;-)
 
bluemanchester said:
Which to me seems like another rule, made by the powers that be, which is like the way VAR is run. I have been to games including ours at Gelsenkirchen? where a sliding roof was closed, also rugby games at the Millennium Stadium and I think a closed roof adds to the atmosphere keeping the noise in. Or is it just certain clubs are against them as they would not spend the money on one. If those who say there would be no return on the money needed as the reason then I disagree as it is comfort for the paying supporters that count for me because in reality the toilets do not give value for money but they need to be there for the comfort of supporters and somewhere for the smokers to have their quick drag;-)
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To make matters worse I think at least on League Cup Final in Cardiff was played with the roof closed….
 
Picture posted in the Liverpool missile throwing thread.

I accept away fans, including City fans, are treated differently to home fans just by the nature of away support. But it’s interesting that clubs do turn a blind eye to away fans standing in parts of the ground that would normally be seated and stewarded that way. The same happens in the CL when Ultras/away fans are allowed to stand on L2 and L3.

Liverpool fans standing on L3.

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nmc said:
To make matters worse I think at least on League Cup Final in Cardiff was played with the roof closed….
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Our UEFA Cup game against TNS played at the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, in August 2003 took place with the roof closed. As far as I know, it's the only competitive first-team fixture played by Manchester City where that's happened.
 
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