Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

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Pep clearly just making stuff up to justify poor team selection. Picking happy players over better options. Oh dear.....
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No I don't think so. If I read that right, Phil is pissed and showing it. Pep wants happy faces, in training and especially when not selected - he has been clear about that from day 1. If thats true its up to Phil to knuckle down, work hard and get over his disappointment.
 
He's the greatest manager to ever exist in my eyes but I think this season he's been well below his best standard.

The inverted fullbacks have been a problem all season, against Newcastle away we played with inverted fullbacks and it enabled Saint Maximin and Almiron to transition on us all game.

Liverpool was just abysmal, they were there for the taking and Guardiola decided to play a back three where our biggest threat was under instruction not to run at a 37 year old fullback.

Brentford at home, no subs until the 89th minute. Everton at home, no subs until the 80th minute.

It feels like because Guardiola has become even more obsessed with us having the ball and that he has to compensate for us having an actual #9 by us keeping the ball and moving it slower.

Manchester City have done Manchester City things best when we play with a high intensity and move the ball with purpose. At the moment our intensity is that of a side that's already winning the game 4-0.
 
Brentford was just two PL games ago hardly an impressive stat saying we haven't dropped points since then up until yesterday.

We were rubbish yesterday with that team selection and no amount of spin will change that.
Not really sure what that has to do with the post you replied to which was about controlling the chances we give up when different combinations of players are used. We weren’t rubbish either, just not quite good enough to overcome Evertons spoiling game, it happens to us most seasons in some games and the same people over react ever season and then go quiet when we win the league usually.
 
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Brentford was just two PL games ago hardly an impressive stat saying we haven't dropped points since then up until yesterday.

We were rubbish yesterday with that team selection and no amount of spin will change that.
The point isn't that we're on a huge winning run - it's that we weren't rubbish against Everton.

We stopped them almost completely, and were unlucky only to score once. Sometimes these games happen, but it wasn't a poor performance.

I pointed out Brentford because we were genuinely poor that day, that was the last time Phil started, and Pep specifically referred to the last three games, and we've played three since the Brentford.
 
The happy thing with pep has worked but if Haaland Kdb and Rodri had a slapped arse all week do we think they would be sitting on the bench come the weekend game?
Haaland and KDB possibly as he can play without either if he wants to Rodri not so much.
 
More evidence (if any was needed) that Pep is off his nut. He really is an odd character.

Genius and madness frequently go hand in hand.

This is how he has been since he has been here wants happy faces in training and we can’t say it hasn’t worked! If you looked at Sterling in his last year the photos that come out his smile looked strained and players can fake “happy” but not be happy!
 
No I don't think so. If I read that right, Phil is pissed and showing it. Pep wants happy faces, in training and especially when not selected - he has been clear about that from day 1. If thats true its up to Phil to knuckle down, work hard and get over his disappointment.
And KDB plays well when unhappy. I guess Phil is unhappy because a player with less ability is getting starts ahead of him. Who wouldn't be.
 
The point isn't that we're on a huge winning run - it's that we weren't rubbish against Everton.

We stopped them almost completely, and were unlucky only to score once. Sometimes these games happen, but it wasn't a poor performance.

I pointed out Brentford because we were genuinely poor that day, that was the last time Phil started, and Pep specifically referred to the last three games, and we've played three since the Brentford.
Jeeze I can't beleive you thought we were not poor vs Everton. We created so little with that team and formation. But each to his own.
 
The point isn't that we're on a huge winning run - it's that we weren't rubbish against Everton.

We stopped them almost completely, and were unlucky only to score once. Sometimes these games happen, but it wasn't a poor performance.

I pointed out Brentford because we were genuinely poor that day, that was the last time Phil started, and Pep specifically referred to the last three games, and we've played three since the Brentford.
Phil consistently creates more chances than either Mahrez or Grealish. But by your judgement we won't see him start the next two games because Grealish and Mahrez played well against Everton is that what you are saying?
 
Why does Pep play the likes of Rico, Ake, Akanji, Grealish, Mahrez ahead of Walker, Cancelo, Laporte, Foden...? Because Pep thinks that the team needs hungry players capable of challenging the more established players in the team. Pep is a tactical genius, and, given his experience, he understands the group dynamics infinitely better than the average fan. Anyone doubting this is being foolish. BUT, psychology is not Pep's specialty, and in experimenting with squad players he may make mistakes. Personally, I think he went a bit too far with Rico. Great talent but still far from the quality of Walker and Cancelo. He offered nothing in attack vs Everton.
 
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we arent going to win every year , our football is fucking amazing ,win lose or draw, i want to win every throw in never mind match and cup, but it is never going to happen , so i sit back watch the football and enjoy what we have, im sort of lucky that i went( home and away) when we were shit ,really shit, i never thought we would get out of league 2 never mind be one of the top teams in europe, ill die a happy man (football wise)i would love the champs league as well.

once i was sat on the works bus with a work mate(decent united fan) must of been during the ferguson era, he said to me "do you ever think you will win the premier league" , i said no, took me a second to answer, we were so far away from all the top teams in england ,i just never could see it , so forgive me if i dont throw my toys out of the pram after a draw

It does help with perspective if you have stuck with the team through the years. Not only have I also done that, I also watched Pep's Barcelona almost as much as City at that time (and I saw pretty much every City game live whether in person or on "tv"). The idea that Pep would manage us one day seemed like a fantasy for most of his time at Barca but then things started to change and once he went to Bayern, it rapidly became a reasonable expectation.

We've had our ups and downs under Pep but it beats suffering away from home at Wycombe (I didn't go to York, not sure why because I liked the idea of visiting York for the weekend).

Having followed Pep's managerial career closely - although I didn't watch Bayern much - I've seen him continue to develop how he has his team play, albeit within the framework of Positional Play. He's done a good job of meeting the challenges thrown at him and I have no reason to doubt that he will continue to do so.

Arsenal have thrown a spanner in the works with their exceptional league form - although Pep may be one of those least surpised by it as he has consistenly talked up Artet - and Pep may not be able to have City overhaul them this season but we are not at the halfway point yet.
 
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Why does Pep play the likes of Rico, Ake, Akanji, Grealish, Mahrez ahead of Walker, Cancelo, Laporte, Foden...? Because Pep thinks that the team needs hungry players capable of challenging the more established players in the team. Pep is a tactical genius, and, given his experience, he understands the group dynamics infinitely better than the average fan. Anyone doubting this is being foolish. BUT, psychology is not Pep's specialty, and in experimenting with squad players he may make mistakes. Personally, I think he went a bit too far with Rico. Great talent but still far from the quality of Walker and Cancelo. He offered nothing in attack vs Everton.
I agree it didn’t work with Rico but he probably played perfectly to instruction. Play in midfield and keep the ball which he did very well whilst providing no threat whatsoever in a game where we’d always boss the midfield anyway.

Consequently we had nobody at right back for the goal and Mahrez had nobody to support him or overlap him. Seen as both our wingers have no pace it was a very strange set up with both fullbacks. Seems odd he didn’t change things much earlier as we weren’t good the whole match.
 
Jeeze I can't beleive you thought we were not poor vs Everton. We created so little with that team and formation. But each to his own.

People come on this forum regularly and say we played shite and the only shite is that comment.

City hardly ever play shite and certainly did not against Everton. City's standards are so hight that even, for them, below average perfromances are still good in comparison to other teams.

I think our average this season is lower than it needs to be have an outstanding trophy haul but the time when we need our best performances is still ahead of us.

Against Everton we had enough good chances to have scored more and allowed them next to nothing, unfortunately they produced one piece of quality to score and made life difficult for City by defending aggressively in large numbers and employing an unending series of spoiling tactics. Games sometimes come down to fine margins and the Everton game did.

City face what I see as an unprecedented parade of bus parkers on a level that none of our rivals face and it presents a real difficulty.

We are changing again, we have a completely different kind of centre forward in our team and Pep has little time on the training pitch to work with the players due to the compacted season and the frequency of games.

Patience in games and outside of them is a virtue.
 
Why does Pep play the likes of Rico, Ake, Akanji, Grealish, Mahrez ahead of Walker, Cancelo, Laporte, Foden...? Because Pep thinks that the team needs hungry players capable of challenging the more established players in the team. Pep is a tactical genius, and, given his experience, he understands the group dynamics infinitely better than the average fan. Anyone doubting this is being foolish. BUT, psychology is not Pep's specialty, and in experimenting with squad players he may make mistakes. Personally, I think he went a bit too far with Rico. Great talent but still far from the quality of Walker and Cancelo. He offered nothing in attack vs Everton.

Hmmm, if Pep didn't do player psychology well, I don't believe he would have been as successful as he is.
 
Still not a fan of the Grealish/Mahrez combo with no proper full backs. Totally lack pace and width.

Think we need to try something different, especially at home against these defensive sides, we seem pretty predictable and one paced.
We already have and to great effect. When Foden Haaland and Grealish started the games at Sevilla and v Man U we ran roughshod up front. 10 goals, 5 by Erling and 4 by Little Philip. Versus NF we started Alvarez with Haaland and Foden and Haaland bagged another hat trick with Julian adding a brace. Why we have not gone back to these type of set ups up front is maddening. When you have the upper hand you play the fucking upper hand, not with a hand or two tied behind your back. I'll take the 3-3 v Newcastle any day of the week over the shit shows v Everton and Brentford because many more times than not we win those type of games 4-1, 5-2, 4-2 or whatever. Are we now going to play some fucking slow motion chess match against every team we face and wind up fucked anyway like at Anfield? What am I missing?
 
He's 'figured it out' plenty of times before, smart money is on him doing it again.
That's a big part of the problem. There's not that much to figure out. When you have the best roster you press the upper hand. We don't always need Pep to be a genius. Does anyone see Arteta experimenting with all sorts of inverted wingers and fullbacks and such? Pep was committed to his 4-3-3 for the longest time and it worked fabulously. Even without a recognized 9 he stuck with the 4-3-3 using a "false" 9 and it worked. We brought in a top level 9 and now Pep decides to start experimenting with the formation. What for? City don't need gimmicks. We're not a lesser team trying to find ways to make up the gap. It's so unnecessary. Why is playing Rico Lewis at RB and then essentially moving him into midfield in what becomes a 3-4-3 genius? If you're going to play a 3-4-3 just play Bernardo there joining Rodri, KDB, and Gundo. As good as Rico has been does it justify sitting Bernardo? In the end there's a fine line between a genius and a mad scientist.
 
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