The Title Race 2022/23

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plus they resume EL too, so would be interesting to see their priorities.
I think they’ll play the kids in their remaining EL games. They’d be mad to prioritise that.

The benefit to us, if they stay in it for a few more rounds, is that they’ll likely play a few games on the Sunday, after we’ve already played. That pressure can crack teams.
 
I think we'll hit 80-84 points on the current season - the season that's been very strange so far - performances and the teams we played so far.
We are actually not doing so bad if you compare the number of points in the first 16 games for all seasons under Pep. We have more points than in 16/17 and 19/20 when we didn't win titles. But on the other side I don't remember easiest schedule in the first part of the season and considering that, we underperformed. And the goals conceded are in the bracket of those two seasons when we didn't win the title. And on the top of that Arsenal is doing to us what we've been doing to Liverpool for some time now.
 
The only reason I still think we have a chance is what we've done in previous seasons, but to be honest there's nothing I've seen this season that makes me think we can win a title with a solid opponent as we have in arsenal.

I think it's a season of transition, and Pep is struggling to let go of false 9 football and seems to be trying to compensate for haaland replacing a false 9 by favoring wingers who keep the ball rather than threaten consistently. If Mahrez was scoring this year like he was last year maybe we get away with this or if grealish was more impactful. But it worries me. They are doing what pep wants in terms of possession and he's forgiving them for not doing anything in the box as a consequence.
 
It’s hardly surprising to see us look a bit flat in the league this season. It’s human nature to take your foot off the gas after winning back to back league titles.

It’s pretty obvious everyone at the club wants the champions league more than anything this season.

If arsenal do win the league this season the next test for arteta will be keeping that fire burning and get arsenal going again. Not easy just look how Liverpool and Chelsea faired after winning the league the following season.
 
Arsenal are dominating games and look dangerous every time they attack, playing lovely little one touch stuff in and around the box. Their goals are spread nicely throughout the team, they have pace in all areas and they’re solid at the back.

Peak City could overhaul them especially given that we still have to play them twice but this team isn’t peak City. We’re not capable of knocking out 11 or 12 wins on the bounce like in our great seasons. It’s quite conceivable that by the time we play them we’ll be ten points behind them and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them tear through our ageing midfield with ease when we do meet.
 
Arsenal are dominating games and look dangerous every time they attack, playing lovely little one touch stuff in and around the box. Their goals are spread nicely throughout the team, they have pace in all areas and they’re solid at the back.

Peak City could overhaul them especially given that we still have to play them twice but this team isn’t peak City. We’re not capable of knocking out 11 or 12 wins on the bounce like in our great seasons. It’s quite conceivable that by the time we play them we’ll be ten points behind them and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them tear through our ageing midfield with ease when we do meet.
Correct, I'm not very confident we'll get anything against them atm.
 
It’s hardly surprising to see us look a bit flat in the league this season. It’s human nature to take your foot off the gas after winning back to back league titles.

It’s pretty obvious everyone at the club wants the champions league more than anything this season.

If arsenal do win the league this season the next test for arteta will be keeping that fire burning and get arsenal going again. Not easy just look how Liverpool and Chelsea faired after winning the league the following season.

I'm sorry, I don't get that myself.

I just don't see how after winning it back to back and having the chance to do 3 in a row, which is so hard and far rarer than a a yearly champions league, anyone would take their foot off anything.

Particularly with the new additions of top players, a goalscorer we were missing, Pep's extension etc.
 
I just can’t see a team with Xhaka winning a title but then Danny Drinkwater won it.

I think we’ll win it narrowly.

Arsenal will implode.
 
Arsenal are dominating games and look dangerous every time they attack, playing lovely little one touch stuff in and around the box. Their goals are spread nicely throughout the team, they have pace in all areas and they’re solid at the back.

Peak City could overhaul them especially given that we still have to play them twice but this team isn’t peak City. We’re not capable of knocking out 11 or 12 wins on the bounce like in our great seasons. It’s quite conceivable that by the time we play them we’ll be ten points behind them and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them tear through our ageing midfield with ease when we do meet.

Wasn't that long ago people were saying exactly the same about Liverpool, and us being incapable of winning 11 or 12 wins in a row.

We went on to win 21 in a row. Went from 9th in the table at New Year, to winning it by like 10 points. Wth the same Liverpool having 6 home defeats and barely making top 4 having been well ahead.

Likewise it was only last year we were 12 points ahead in January, only to barely hold on and win it in the last 15 minutes of the season.

There is just so much left to play for.
 
I think if we come out of the next 4 games with 9-10 points we’ll be OK.

Keep the faith, blues. We’ve fared through worse in recent years and will do again.
 
Man City lost their identity of goalscoring wingers & getting their wingers into areas for dangerous cut-backs. Liverpool lost their identity of midfield compactness/physicality to sustain wave after wave of pressure. Arsenal gained both concepts & it’s why they’re 7 points clear.
In a nutshell, yes. Arsenal are by far the best team in this league right now.
 
And that's why English football is the best in the world. It is more competitive here than anywhere despite all the doom-mongering about too much money in the game.
It’s also why it makes me laugh every time someone wins the title and they say that team is “set for a decade of dominance”. Football can turn on it’s head from one season to the next. Nobody saw anyone except City or Liverpool challenging and yet we’re both going to be blown away by Arsenal this season imo.
 
In a nutshell, yes. Arsenal are by far the best team in this league right now.

The best, OK, but by far the best? Nonsense. Unless under 'right now' you mean the last 3 days or something.

Arsenal have been a bit luckier and more clinical. Stats don't back the impression that they create more and concede fewer chances. If both teams play right now, I'd back City to dominate the game, both home and away. And by 'dominate' I don't mean having more possession, but creating more and conceding fewer chances.
 
I think we need to all of our games before we play Arsenal who don't look likely to drop points. That's not going to be easy with the fixture list and cups. Also we're on a bit of a tightrope tactically as we can outscore any opposition when we attack but, like Liverpool today, we're susceptible to the counter against the teams we'd be expected to beat.

If we can keep within this 7 point margin then we need to beat them (obviously) to make it 4 which is when it gets tense for them. We;d then need to keep a winning streak going till we play them again. 1 point in it. But we're now heavily reliant on them dropping points and us going on a winning run we've done before.
 
I think we need to all of our games before we play Arsenal who don't look likely to drop points. That's not going to be easy with the fixture list and cups. Also we're on a bit of a tightrope tactically as we can outscore any opposition when we attack but, like Liverpool today, we're susceptible to the counter against the teams we'd be expected to beat.

If we can keep within this 7 point margin then we need to beat them (obviously) to make it 4 which is when it gets tense for them. We;d then need to keep a winning streak going till we play them again. 1 point in it. But we're now heavily reliant on them dropping points and us going on a winning run we've done before.
Arsenal look strong but I’d be surprised if they don’t drop points before we go there in February. Their games between now and then are:
Newcastle (home)
Tottenham (away)
United (home)
Everton (away)
Brentford (home)
So three games against top four contenders (one of which is a derby) plus two against teams that we know only too well can be problematic. If they take maximum points from that lot, I’ll tip my hat to them and just hope that we’re up to the task of pushing them all the way.
 
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Arsenal look strong but I’d be surprised if they don’t drop points before we go there in February. Their games between now and then are:
Newcastle (home)
Tottenham (away)
United (home)
Everton (away)
Brentford (home)
So three games against top four contenders and two against teams that we know only too well can be problematic. If they take maximum points from that lot, I’ll tip my hat to them and just hope that we’re up to the task of pushing them all the way.
If they win all those and then turn us over then there's really not a lot you can do apart from keep them honest till the end of the season, but they'd be worthy champions. If they drop points in 2 or even 1 of the next 3, and we manage to win ours by hook or by crook, it's more than back on, and I think we can only get better as players hit their stride and Pep figures out how to maximize our new style.
 
Arsenal look strong but I’d be surprised if they don’t drop points before we go there in February. Their games between now and then are:
Newcastle (home)
Tottenham (away)
United (home)
Everton (away)
Brentford (home)
So three games against top four contenders (one of which is a derby) plus two against teams that we know only too well can be problematic. If they take maximum points from that lot, I’ll tip my hat to them and just hope that we’re up to the task of pushing them all the way.
And in that time we play Chelsea, Rags, Spurs x2, Wolves & Villa, I’d take a two point swing in that period knowing we still have to play them twice
 
Arsenal look strong but I’d be surprised if they don’t drop points before we go there in February. Their games between now and then are:
Newcastle (home)
Tottenham (away)
United (home)
Everton (away)
Brentford (home)
So three games against top four contenders (one of which is a derby) plus two against teams that we know only too well can be problematic. If they take maximum points from that lot, I’ll tip my hat to them and just hope that we’re up to the task of pushing them all the way.
I'd also be surprised if we don't drop points as well, our run in is very tough.
 
Arsenal are currently running on target for 103 points.


Does anyone think they can keep that up?
 
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