Russian invasion of Ukraine

cleavers said:
My suspicion is that it's a drone of some sort, and these circles were where it gained height before following it's route.

The US drone "forte" does this after take off from Sicilly, before heading for the Black Sea. I did a bit of digging about the squawk code, and it's used on/in the US generally.

It's interesting that it's using a transponder, I'm assuming this is so that any air defence units can identify it, and not shoot it down. It looks like it launched from that road around 1230 GMT.

It'll be interesting to see how long it's flying, as the "forte" one from Sicilly is often airborne for nearly 24 hours.
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Did you see where it went? I lost it when I had to get on with some work
 
cleavers said:
My suspicion is that it's a drone of some sort, and these circles were where it gained height before following it's route.

The US drone "forte" does this after take off from Sicilly, before heading for the Black Sea. I did a bit of digging about the squawk code, and it's used on/in the US generally.

It's interesting that it's using a transponder, I'm assuming this is so that any air defence units can identify it, and not shoot it down. It looks like it launched from that road around 1230 GMT.

It'll be interesting to see how long it's flying, as the "forte" one from Sicilly is often airborne for nearly 24 hours.
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Method in their madness.
Telling the Russians to find new ways of hiding before they go to work on there front lines GLOCS and logistics centres.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Don't really matter who gets them sent as long as they get there and quick, just a pity short sighted tossers have left us short of the capability to manufacture more.
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It seems we have another 80 or so mothballed in the last defence review based on Johnsons big call - we should donate as many as we can as soon as we can and shame the Americans and the Germans into action
 
Fred_Quimby said:
10 Challenger 2 MBT is a waste of time. These are now obsolete from our armed forces. To be able to use these there would have to be a considerable amount of logistical backup. It would be the heaviest tank on the battlefield and would need specialist ARVs (armoured recovery vehicles) to recover ‘dead’ tanks though battle damage or breakdown. Breakdown, now there is a thing, if it breaks down you will need a complete spares backup and don’t get me started on the specialist 120mm rifled ammunition as all new tanks us smooth bore guns. Bring the German Leopard into the mix and you have another set of problems.
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It's actually 14. And is is just the start. We have 500 of which we plan to have 250 or so. And only 227 are servicable. We will be accelerating our Challenger 3 upgrade. But first we we will be making unserviceable Challenger 2s servicable replacing stock sent to Ukraine.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Poland want to send leopard tanks but need German approval, Germany sending air defence systems, the US still talk about negotiated settlement
I’m tired of the disharmony in Europe people are dying Poland will help because they would be next in line for invasion but still only the UK sending tanks
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Poland will be ditching their whole Leopard 2 fleet replacing them with South Korean K2s and Abrams as Leopard 2 delivery to anyone is years away - so I suspect they don't give a stuff what Germany thinks.
 
BlueAnorak said:
It's actually 14. And is is just the start. We have 500 of which we plan to have 250 or so. And only 227 are servicable. We will be accelerating our Challenger 3 upgrade. But first we we will be making unserviceable Challenger 2s servicable replacing stock sent to Ukraine.
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All Russian Armour is Obsolete along side the challengers a lot depends on how quickly crews can be trained to get the best out of them. They decimated Russian made AFVs in the gulf.
 
bluethrunthru said:
It seems we have another 80 or so mothballed in the last defence review based on Johnsons big call - we should donate as many as we can as soon as we can and shame the Americans and the Germans into action
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I hate Boris as much as anyone, but do you actually think he made the decision to reduce our number of tanks?

And do you really think that's a bad idea because we needed them to...give away?
 
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