PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

flook said:
tbh mate I've been hearing the same for a decade, and nothing has changed. It's time we changed our approach, because all we have achieved with the passive approach is to allow the bullies to continue bullying
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I genuinely think it's time we bring the whole house of cards down... expose the real corruption in the PL
 
This is all for just Section 1 of the PL Statement

(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
Rule B.13 relates to City having acted towards the league and other clubs “in the utmost good faith”. It will be referenced again in the statement’s later sections.

Rules C.71 and C.72 relate to the submission of City’s accounts (to the registrar of companies), while C.75 is regarding their projected profit and loss accounts in their application for a UEFA club licence to play European football. Premier League clubs are obligated to submit their accounts for auditing every year.

Rule C.80, meanwhile, refers to City’s provision of tickets to visiting clubs to their stadium (then-named City of Manchester Stadium, now called the Etihad Stadium).

(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
Rules C.78 and C.79 again refer to the club’s accounts from the previous financial year, specifically to their profit and loss report and revenue streams.

Rules C.86 and C.87 relate to their “future financial information”, also including profit and loss accounts, as well as cash flows and balance sheets.

(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
Section E of the Premier League rulebook for the 2011-12 season refers to the rules regarding fixtures — from 2012-13 onwards, they instead refer to club accounts and finances, as detailed below.

(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
Rules E.3 and E.4 relate to the submission of the club’s most recent annual accounts, including a balance sheet, a breakdown of profit and loss and revenue streams.

Rules E.11 and E.12, meanwhile, refer to the club’s financial projections, again including profit and loss, cash flow and balance sheets.

(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules 15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
Rule E.49 states that a club must inform the Premier League if any of their accounts or financial projections are likely to change, adversely or otherwise, from their previous statements.
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
Rule E.50 is the same as Rule E.49 above.
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
Same as above
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
Rule E.51 is the same as Rules E.50 and E.49 above.
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.
Rule B.16 again refers to acting in “the utmost good faith” in matters between City, the Premier League and other clubs.
 
flook said:
tbh mate I've been hearing the same for a decade, and nothing has changed. It's time we changed our approach, because all we have achieved with the passive approach is to allow the bullies to continue bullying
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All we have achieved is 4 PL titles out of the last 5 years, the best football the league has ever seen and led to rivals throwing mud at us from a large distance.

The club were confidence with the UEFA charges, they are confidence with the PL charges - trust them.
 
Bantamgaz said:
Mate I’m a Bradford City fan with a soft spot for you lot ........ should I stay out of it ???? Sorry but this doesn’t just affect you lot it affects the whole game ......... these charges go back 15 years that means they have it in for your owners for that amount of time ........... I simply don’t care if you’ve bent the rules etc etc if you have the money then so be it ......... but in the years since 2008 how many clubs have gone bust while the top authorities in this country have sat back and done Fook all to prevent it happening .......... maybe if they put more effort into protecting clubs that are being run badly ( Macclesfield, Bury and Oldham and that’s off the top of my head ) then maybe these clubs would still be in the league ..........put it this way had the Sheik took over the rags in 2008 then this shit wouldn’t be happening but it’s happening because your club has done something that they hate and that’s kicking them off the top table
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I'd wondered how it looked from down the leagues.

As you say the PL, spend their time bullying the lower divisions by threatening to take away the money which is already below the promised amounts, kill off the academies outside the PL and allow themselves to nick the best kids.
As you say, saving some of the collapsed would cost relative peanuts. Meanwhile, takeovers have rescued some of the biggest (e.g. Chelsea more obviously due to international politics, Liverpool when Hicks/GIlette gave up).

Simply the PL don't care much about the lower divisions bar lip service to keep the media something nice to print. Was it the ridiculous MU/Liverpool plan that wanted to create PL2, and block any relegation? Awful behaviour.
 
I'm genuinely not worried. Call it ignorance or blind faith but I believe we actually have competent people in charge...

However, the Premier League's job is done. Now these charges are out there, whether we win out in the end or not is irrelevant, people will have made up their minds.

That's why it's happened, I've no doubt
 
Section 2

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

The second set of alleged breaches also refers to requirements for a club to include full details of player remuneration within the relevant contracts, for the seasons 2010-11 to 2015-16.

Further alleged breaches relate to rules requiring full details of manager remuneration between the 2009-10 and 2012-13 seasons, when Roberto Mancini was in charge.

Rules Q.7 and Q.8 (and then Rules P.7 and P.8) refer to clubs’ contracts with their managers. Specifically, that the terms of the contract are clearly written out and registered with the Premier League.

Rule T.12 states that the full details of players’ salaries and bonuses are set out in their contracts. Rules T.12 and T.20 are the same as Rules K.12 and K.20, respectively.
 
ShedDweller said:
The term "going on a fishing trip" is what you are talking about. Auditors do it if you provide them with more information than you have to.

We are under no obligation to pony up everything the PL asks for. Its for them to show proof that we have done something wrong not the other way around.
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Yep. Treat people auditing you like mushrooms .....

Keep them in the dark and feed them shit.
 
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