PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[dave_blue12]

Here's something..

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I’d be gutted if this were to come to pass. I believe the club that we are innocent and I want this put to bed.

 

[JASR]

Going to boo the Premier League anthem now.

A think a barracking of ‘cheats, cheats, cheats’ should cover it

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

Section 3

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.
The third section of the statement deals with alleged breaches of Premier League rules requiring clubs to comply with UEFA financial fair play (FFP) regulations, which were in place between 2013-14 to 2017-18.

 

[J.G.Blue.]

For someone who is a bit thick (me) does anyone know what we have actually been charged with?
I am a bit concerned because in september 1978 just oustside the kippax stand I found 50p on the floor which I just put in my pocket & didnt tell anyone, do you think I might be in trouble from the FA?

 

[leo_city]

We just need an outcome and to be over and done with it all. One way or another. Our fans so not deserve this, none of this is because of us, we have always supported the club no matter what, and we'll continue to do so. Soriano and others need to come out and give us answers. We deserve clarity

 

[halfcenturyup]

Soriano particularly needs to speak up now!

He really doesn't.

 

[cleavers]

What is the most serious offence we have committed out of all the 100+ offences?

Being Manchester City.

 

[77lost by a point]

PL investigation includes
* failing to control their final position in the league
* inventing a player subsequently named Glauber Berti and using wages to pay others
* failing to adhere to minimum pie fillings to crust ratio
* illegal postage and packing rates at online shop.
* failing to disclose away attendance at York
* falsifying home attendances by up to 45k per game

You forgot running out of chips

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

Section 4

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.
The fourth set of alleged breaches relates to the Premier League’s profitability and sustainability rules from seasons 2015-16 to 2017-18.

These are similar to UEFA’s FFP rules, albeit more lenient, and make clear exactly how clubs are permitted to spend their income.

The Premier League has charged Manchester City with breaching these rules in 2015-16, 2016-17 and 2017-18.

 

[Indaparkside]

We just need an outcome and to be over and done with it all. One way or another. Our fans so not deserve this, none of this is because of us, we have always supported the club no matter what, and we'll continue to do so. Soriano and others need to come out and give us answers. We deserve clarity

They have were innocent and the charges will be contested vigorously

 

[yankblue]

Soriano particularly needs to speak up now!

Might be legal reasons why he can't / shouldn't say anything

 

[CatMan]

We just need an outcome and to be over and done with it all. One way or another. Our fans so not deserve this, none of this is because of us, we have always supported the club no matter what, and we'll continue to do so. Soriano and others need to come out and give us answers. We deserve clarity

Spot on. It never bothered me being shite, as being an honest loser will always be more admirable than being a fraudulent success, with the stigma that follows.

If these allegations are proven true to an extent that excludes genuine mistakes, then this club needs to be surrendered back to its fans in some sort of cooperative, and we rebuild from wherever we find ourselves.

 

[Worsleyweb]

For someone who is a bit thick (me) does anyone know what we have actually been charged with?
I am a bit concerned because in september 1978 just oustside the kippax stand I found 50p on the floor which I just put in my pocket & didnt tell anyone, do you think I might be in trouble from the FA?

Lifetime ban i am afraid.

 

[haugemcfc]

No, on the contrary I suspect that in the end it benefits neither the league, its brand, nor City for the sanctions to be of any real significance. I'm just guessing btw and have no professional insights or anything like that, but I can see it being a points deduction which maybe means a season out of the CL, and a slap on the wrist. But not much beyond that.

The wider damage to the club's reputation is now done. We've gone from old titles being questioned to literally every season up to and including the 100 point one being in breach of PL rules. Whether we win or lose from here, the damage is done.

We Will get 100 point again so stop us Never ;-)

 

[Maly]

Rule C.80, meanwhile, refers to City’s provision of tickets to visiting clubs to their stadium (then-named City of Manchester Stadium, now called the Etihad Stadium).

They really are throwing anything they can at us eh?

 

[RobinHood]

Not in my opinion. It's a very childish response to be angry because someone else did something wrong too and got away with it. That doesn't justify our behaviour.

Guilty of what behaviour exactly?

 

[Mr Edward's shoe mirror]

Will say again for the PL to prove that we concealed payments to managers and players and that we inflated profits they must have solid proof. I can't see that they have it.

For this kind of evidence HMRC, the National Crime Agency, the UK Financial Intelligence Unit etc, would all have to be involved. This would also involve which ever organisations we used for our accounts and auditing.

And yet there is no such evidence that any of these agencies and organisations are involved, even though government agencies leak like a sieve.

I do however expect the PL to find us guilty on non-compliance with the investigation though I doubt that will be on all 30 charges.

It's a 4 year long investigation, so they might have former players, managers and agents who have given statements to explain how they ended up with more money in their accounts, than what the club officially offered up to the investigation. A third party company that pays players and managers under the table for image rights, commercial bonuses etc etc...

They seem very confident of the facts around the Mancini payments. So if the club are saying that he was paid 4 million, but the bank of Zurich are saying 8 million, then there is clear proof that stuff has been going on off the books. And that is just one manager. When you consider all of the players who have come and gone in the last 14 seasons, then the scale of it starts to make your knees knock.

 

[yankblue]

What is the most serious offence we have committed out of all the 100+ offences?

Wearing blue kits

 

[Worsleyweb]

Any idea how long this is likely to gone on for?

 

[its a Barm]

Are we being used as a political football ?

would be so funny if the PL where told to drop it by the goverment and appologise to us.