Whilst I admire your optimism I'm afraid I don't share it.
There is no good outcome for this. No with one mighty leap they were free. This whole process will be engineered to cause us maximum pain. Football should give pleasure not this constant shit show.
Is what I thought.EFL would see it as a massive payday, no way would they snub us (they're one of us, continually fucked over by 6 clubs).
Especially if its false accounting we are being accused of which then then lead to tax evasion surely and other financial charges that go beyond sporting issues? The Premier League cant just say well we think you have done it if we feel our proof doesnt?
what is the point of just asserting stuff. The law is clear (as are the rules) that it would need to be "serious irregularity" causing "substantial injustice to the applicant." This is obviously a high bar, magical or otherwise.just because it says serious does not mean it some magical high bar. if we feel we are being wronged "seriously" we can indeed take it to court. besides I am pretty sure it will be the court that will take the decision if we are "seriously" wronged in the first place and that is not upto the panel. so I am sure our lawyers can come up with a reasoning if we get shafted in the tribunal arbitration process.
Another reason for the timing of the charges, the red shirts knew we would be spending big this summer.Good words but this is going to drag on for some months. Will players still want to sign whilst we have this cloud over us?
Maybe they are waiting to see if any charges stick? But like you if there’s a hint at it and the profile of the club I’d expect them to be there now.Tax evasion, should it not be a matter for the Police and Inland revenue rather than the premier league deciding? If it is why aren’t they booting down the front entrance of the Colin Bell stand at 6am and demanding to see every document, email, texts from the people within the club?
Ok, so we seem to have conflicting info regarding where the case can go. @projectriver suggests it can’t go anywhere else other than the PL panel but others have said it can. This is the thing that concerns me, and I’m sure many other City fans, the most. I have zero faith in the PL panel being ‘independent’
@tolmie's hairdoo . Can you point me in the direction of info on what we were prepared to tell CAS but weren’t allowed to, please.Any prediction on how long this will drag on for, Tolm? Presumably years if it goes to appeal?
No. That isn't what it saysSo in other words we can definitely take it to court if we get stitched over. If we get done for minor offences we’ll get a minor punishment and will have to put up with it.
Would they notice re. Chicken Balti Pies!Yeah - all the cunts who have assumed our guilt before we've had a chance to defend ourselves can fuck right off if they think they're getting a pint of Asahi for £4.77 instead of £5.30. And we should be allowed to shit in their chicken Balti pies for good measure - seeing what comes out of my arse after a night on the lash and a spicy curry the fuckers won't be able to tell anyway.
It depends what they mean. They have already been to the High Court on procedural grounds in this matter. And can again. BUT they can't go there in respect of the substantive consideration of the facts unless the process has serious irregularities or doesn't have jurisdiction.
I am no lawyer, but if City are punished and the punishment is deemed excessive and damaging to City on a commercial/reputational level, City should be able to challenge that in the courts.It depends what they mean. They have already been to the High Court on procedural grounds in this matter. And can again. BUT they can't go there in respect of the substantive consideration of the facts unless the process has serious irregularities or doesn't have jurisdiction.
So in other words we can definitely take it to court if we get stitched over. If we get done for minor offences we’ll get a minor punishment and will have to put up with it.
I just can't be arsed living in delusion. And as to my general outlook on life? I still blame Manchester grey clouds and City in the 80s for infecting my entire psyche. Blame them.Stefen is great to listen to when he’s not talking about the shit he does for a living. He’s the only voice that doesn’t sound like a twat on the 93.20 pod. I like his opinions but he’s not half a doom merchant some times. He’s deffo avoiding cracks in the pavement and walking around ladders instead of under on a day to day basis.
Nope, literally can't challenge on those grounds. Next.I am no lawyer, but if City are punished and the punishment is deemed excessive and damaging to City on a commercial/reputational level, City should be able to challenge that in the courts.
That’s my understanding as well.I am no lawyer, but if City are punished and the punishment is deemed excessive and damaging to City on a commercial/reputational level, City should be able to challenge that in the courts.
Fuck that, FFP works in our favour now. We’re self sufficient and rolling in cash. Nobody will be able to catch us up if we carry on with the trajectory we’re going at.
If they don't then fuck 'em.Good words but this is going to drag on for some months. Will players still want to sign whilst we have this cloud over us?