PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Stoned Rose]

Sometimes less is more. The less we give the more the accusers have to justify.

Ultimately no-one will ever fully know the business model that city uses unless they share it but why would they? How many businesses provide more than what they are legally obligated to provide? City haven't been charged by any authority for any crime except for those levelled by the clowns in the Premier League.

You have to remember that the Premier League oversaw wild spending in the past and did nothing, think Wimbledon, Leeds, Portsmouth etc. It's not hard to argue that the Premier League should be investigating its own role in its ability to police club finances.

I mentioned earlier on the thread that if we have been blagging these cunts for 14 years they are clearly nowhere near capable of managing the PL.

I’d also add that if we’ve been blagging them for 14 years to the tune of 100 charges, wouldn’t that suggest other clubs may have also the same?

They’re literally saying “we are very shit” by charging us.

The mind really does boggle.

 

[Centurions]

Why do the charges stop in 18/19, what about the last few years?

There are charges after that date but for non-cooperation. I think PB suggested that it's to do with image rights as the company who used to hold them, sold/gave them back in 2019 and went out of business (Fordham ?)


5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Why do the charges stop in 18/19, what about the last few years?

We've stopped playing with the PL on those figures....that'll be the next battle once this one turns to dust.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Could City take subsequent civil action against the PL for reputational or financial damage. The PL charge decison was briefed to the media before City received it for example. That is certainly the PL acting in bad faith. It seems incredible we would have no redress for something which could devastate our business wth job losses, delayed developments in Manchester city-centre, ruin careers and local sub-contractors, and create stress for thousands of our fans. Is it really the case in the UK that a three-person panel can have those sort of powers without any protection for the accused party?

The Prem, even after four years of preparation, have made some cack-handed errors already. Our lawyers are onto it and they've barely got started. I reckon that the Prem's ineptitude has already got their cartel friends worried that the case for the prosecution is falling apart. Our lawyers will be looking for a way to get this into court and I'm convinced they will.

 

[halfcenturyup]

This case will likely drag on and on. The media will continue to stoke the fires of speculation.
How far will that affect player / manager concentration and confidence?
Will it encourage key players to want away?
Or can the club switch this attack and use to our advantage?

Tune in next week, for another exciting instalment of: Financial Doap.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

If we get found guilty, we can forget the super league. We won’t be “invited”.

That’s the end game here. Not to Nick a few titles from us. It is to literally end the club as a going concern.
You simply cannot have people with brown skin owning a successful football team in this country. If our owner was like the Venky’s , there’d be none of this.
Unfortunately for him and us, he is the wrong sort of Muslim.

All that said, he and Khaldoon are also nobody’s fools and if anyone thinks they’ve done all this hard work and been stupid enough to risk it all being undone by not covering tracks properly, they don’t know who our owner is.

We shall prevail on this, I have no doubt. Eventually.
We may well have to take a punch or two before the final bell, but when it rings it won’t be the FA having their arm raised.

It is always darkest before the dawn blues. Ride the next few weeks and months out. It will make the victory so much sweeter.

Superbia in Proelio

Well said my friend.

 

[Centurions]

Here's my naive little blue tinted view of things.....

A few questions. Unless the answer is No to the majority, it is a witch hunt and we should have nothing to answer to:

- Have City added to the success and marketability of the Premier League? I.E. have we helped create value for the League, their Directors, employees, other clubs, etc.?
- Has City's presence been a force for good in the Community?
- Have City generally set an example of how to run a Football Club in a 1st class way?
- Have City been solely or largely responsible for creating an environment in the League where success is impossible without money?
- Has City's way of running the club unfairly affected club staff, young players, coaches or other employees?
- Have City been unethical in their business practices, employment contracts, external Contractor dealings, or in any other way to consistently draw justified criticism?

I could go on and on.

Compared with other big clubs, I don't think any club has contributed more to the excitement of the Premier League, improvements in the Community and forcing other Clubs to look at and improve themselves more than City have.

If we are criminals, where are the victims?

and improvenim

Absolutely nothing of that little lot has anything to do with the charges though?

 

[jrb]

So what have the PL been doing every season for the last decade auditing our accounts, making sure we comply with PL FFP, and singing our accounts off?

 

[City Mike 1969]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!(unless they where the one to vote against)

I think its pretty certain that the vote against came from that bitter bayern belgian Leterme, the revolting crook.

 

[argyle]

Could City take subsequent civil action against the PL for reputational or financial damage. The PL charge decison was briefed to the media before City received it for example. That is certainly the PL acting in bad faith. It seems incredible we would have no redress for something which could devastate our business wth job losses, delayed developments in Manchester city-centre, ruin careers and local sub-contractors, and create stress for thousands of our fans. Is it really the case in the UK that a three-person panel can have those sort of powers without any protection for the accused party?

No. There's nothing so far that the club can bring action against.

 

[Jack74]

If we're found guilty keeping the titles is a bit irrelevant to me TBH

Everyone will say we cheated to win them, and we'll have no comeback

Each to there own mate , I don’t feel we have ffp was brought in was to protect your Bury’s , Birmingham, Portsmouth etc from dodgy owners it only changed cause the big clubs could see what was happening ie us and others basically nicking there champs league money , perhaps we have been doing something dodgy that being the guy/guys have put there own money to make are team successful and improve the surrounding areas , no matter what happens the owners have in my opinion been brilliant for us .

 

[jimharri]

Manchester City stars reassigned upon expulsion: Everton get Haaland and old target joins Arsenal

In the event that Manchester City are expelled from the Premier League for their various financial misdeeds, their stars will likely need to find new homes.

www.football365.com

I suppose we ought to try to find the funny side of this shitshow. NMS to Everton and Ederson to the red Mickeys!

 

[Blue Maverick]

Welcome to nginx 98c763ea26ab5ee112bb713bfa30ba6e!52.91.100.61

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I mentioned earlier on the thread that if we have been blagging these cunts for 14 years they are clearly nowhere near capable of managing the PL.

I’d also add that if we’ve been blagging them for 14 years to the tune of 100 charges, wouldn’t that suggest other clubs may have also the same?

They’re literally saying “we are very shit” by charging us.

The mind really does boggle.

But then by not charging us, if they had uncovered that we've been deliberately deceiving them, if they were to let it slide to save face they too would also be acting dishonestly and potentially open themselves up to legal consequences from other parties.

 

[argyle]

The Prem, even after four years of preparation, have made some cack-handed errors already. Our lawyers are onto it and they've barely got started. I reckon that the Prem's ineptitude has already got their cartel friends worried that the case for the prosecution is falling apart. Our lawyers will be looking for a way to get this into court and I'm convinced they will.

Doubtful. It was an amateurish mistake but doesn't change anything.

 

[Academica]

I’m guessing that isn’t a retrospective punishment. I expect it means we start the season after being found guilty on minus points.

So just like an added VAR system.

 

[RACHACE]

It's about time the South stand was layered in banners all about the shit we've had thrown at us since becoming a threat.

Highlight the hypocrisy of it all every time we're on Sly Sports.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Woke up this morning and felt a need to write something as a life long Manchester City fan. So much negativity around the club that I love and have watched since 1968.

It has been said in the media world that the truth should never get in the way of a good story. Over the course of my life, 60 years this far, I have seen this to be self evident in many many situations, both sporting and non.

Their job is to sell newspapers, get clicks and stir the pot. It has always been so. It may feel different in this scenario because they are going after our beloved Manchester City but we have been here before and won. .

We know what it feels like to be fucked.To feel like it has all gone tits up.

Halifax in the Cup.
Luton and David Pleat.
Ricky Villa.
Years and years of spankings by the different red shirts. Knowing we were shit and still showing up. We were there, somewhere, having our own experience of being City.

We know what it feels like.

Unlike all of our antagonists, who have dined for a long time at the top table. Who gorged themselves on a cycle of unfettered success. Unchallenged because of the hegemony they created.
They became complacent and stuffed full of themselves and their self important shite. Corrupt and bloated to the core.

They do not know how it feels to lose.

So when we kicked the door down, because it was the only way in, and brought a level of competition they could not live with,they did not have the spine for the fight. None of them. They tried to meet us on the pitch and failed. They tried through UEFA to knock us out and they failed again. So now they resort to the only weapon they have left. Old money. Old power. Friends in high places. The real corruption. Hidden in plain sight.

But they have picked a fight with a club who know how to scrap.We know the pain of losing big and we know how to come back from that.

Dropping 2 divisions.
Dark days and grim gallows humour.That place somewhere in the old ridings where 300,000 of us watched on in the shadows
Then Gillingham. A moment when the future looked so bleak that people walked away from Wembley , muttering "fucking typical City," only to be drawn back by a miracle.
Imagine that we had lost. I did. And I knew we would still be here come the next season.
QPR. Dead and buried. To make matters worse the old enemy winning it all. Again. Not in my lifetime. You think? Another miracle. A big fuck off metaphorical wink from Mario.

Champions.

Only this.

Just the beginning.

This club, players, management and of course us, the supporters, do not ever lie down.This too I have witnessed. Time and time again. We are City.
It is not even about the winning for me. When you have lost so many times you understand the balance of all things more deeply. You know you can always lose and it makes the joy of winning something our red friends will never ever get to experience.

The day Sergio scored was the loudest noise I ever heard in a football ground and I knew why. That banner. That sanctimonious, rub it in our faces spineless bunch of toss perpetrated by the prawn sandwich brigade. The old money. They never saw it coming. Noisy neighbours indeed.

I understood completely and more than ever before what it meant to be a Manchester City fan.
We can lose this current fight and we will still be here. That's what makes us a fucker to fight with. We don't know when we are beaten.

We're Man City.

We'll fight to the end.

Okay. That's the pre-match team talk sorted for the rest of the season.

 

[Norbert D]

So what have the PL been doing every season for the last decade auditing our accounts, making sure we comply with PL FFP, and singing our accounts off?

They’ve accepted them as accurate but then got the hacked stuff. So who paid Rui Pinto to hack us ?

 

[HarrytheBlue]

What the Prem wants to do is screw us over on behalf of their cartel friends. And in the knowledge that the cartel has something to hide, the Prem will grant them an amnesty while trying to make an example of us. They won't succeed.