PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[MCC]

Qatar now interested in buying the rags. How convenient. It just gets smellier and smellier.

 

[I'm Blue]

The scene in Mcvicar where the guards entered the cell…..

Forget McVicar I hope he goes all Bronson
“What are you doing Ferran?”
“I’m putting my war paint on”

 

[cheekybids]

Lobbying is essentially a form of corruption. I have direct experience of how it works at Government level. They can deny it as much as they want but the whole point of it is that people win influence with senior people so they can promote their own vested interests. Most of the legislation passed in the UK is a result of pressure from media or lobbyists and most of it is not really needed to improve the living standards of people.
Corruption is endemic in most corporate organisations. It ranges from nepotism, expenses fiddling, pilfering, all the way up to overt financial fraud. A lot of people choose not to see it. Football is the same as everywhere else.

Lobbying is corruption & simple examples is,

Lobbying uefa to change the purpose for FFP to protect your members & attack others causing anti competitiveness by threatening (blackmailing)

changing coefficients
Pushing for disciplinary by threatening
Leaking to the media

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I thought some of the takes here were bad, but had a look at the general football Reddit and it's a shit show. People who can't even get where are owners from right weighing in with long detailed breakdowns of what they think will happen and why City deserve it.

 

[Manchester_City_Blue]

It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.

Do we think perhaps the government are more likely to wary of this given the politics in play. By essentially labelling us and by extention the Sheikh 'cheats and frauds' their could be a knock on to UAE investments in the UK which the government will be wary of surely?

 

[mrbelfry]

That team against Chelsea (the kids) could certainly qualify as not technically entering the FA Cup [emoji15][emoji23]

Thankfully that wasn't the year we've been charged for but let's keep that quiet

 

[Metalartin]

The charge on UEFA's FFP rules and the explanation given by the athletic had me thinking. Watch from the timestamp at 1:44 to 3:27.

If you have to follow and respect UEFA's rules because "you signed up to them", even when you are not in that competition "because you applied for that license in that year". Then Liverpool's 2014 FFP failings might be worth a revisit for City's legal team too. There will probably be some loophole but that would be absolutely delicious, if the PL then had to investigate them and charge them. Better still the £50m fake stadium write off, along with the hacking scandal, has them absolutely snookered. City win their case because the PL have no evidence, Liverpool lose theirs. :) Dreams.

 

[Wardley Blue]

We can't do now it's gone to far,got to smash the cartel to bits and and take no shit,otherwise it will just carry on,id rather us get relegated than accept any settlement from the bastards...

I Don't think for one minute that Sheikh Mansour will take this lying down. I think he will throw everything at them and I wouldn't like to be in their boots. I'm sure they will regret ever starting this war!

 

[Dribble]

IF they find us guilty despite evidence we present that dispels that I would agree, but I don't think for one second the Premier League would be that utterly moronic to do so, do you honesty think they would destroy one of world sports greatest and most profitable leagues?

UEFA/G14 found us guilty, CAS disagreed apart from the accusation of City not cooperating to which we admitted & explained why... \0/

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

This is brilliant. I'm writing my next missive for KOTK so have been going through the rule books to see exactly what we've been charged with, and it's clear the PL have fucked it up big time. For example, in 2011/12, they've charged us with a breach of Rule E11. That rule in the 2011/12 Pl Handbook says "Each club shall enter the FA Cup".

I've looked at a few others and it's a similar story. They've seemingly charged us against another rule which says that, except for televised games, all PL games will be played on Saturdays at 3pm.

It's an absolute fuck up.

Thank you Colin for brightening my day.

 

[Centurions]

As usual its the fans that will suffer if things don't work out

Players and coaches can move on, owners and shareholders can sell up.... But it's the fans who 100% have done absolutely nothing wrong and who are far more emotionally invested than those mentioned that will have to live with the consequences

Nonsense, we just all go back to supporting Chelsea.

 

[brewboy]

It boils down to one big claim really. That at least 9 years of Manchester City Football Club accounts are not true and fair (and were knowingly provided to the PL in bad faith). Everything else is noise. I've always thought it would take a long time. Nick di Marco KC says 4 years. Good enough for me

Would this mean that the pl are saying our accountants who audited the returns must have been complicit?

 

[mrbelfry]

They've charged us under certain rules but they've tried to specify the rules, as they were in the years the breaches were alleged. But they've got things mixed up in some cases. They've supposedly corrected that now, after the club pointed it out but it's very amateurish.

The FA Cup charge was still there at 930 this morning as I checked your working out :) it's fixed now. I wonder what is on the official charge sheet though

 

[oakiecokie]

I would love this, but in reality it just won't happen.
I hate to say it, but I will take getting out of this in the same division and solvent.
I fear the fuckers have got us. Whatever the outcome I will still be there cheering us on.

I firmly believe we will hit the PL as hard as we can and to show them we aint cheats and enough is enough.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Aren’t a lot of the charges repeats as well? You’ve broke our rules and, consequently, you’ve broken UEFA rules, FA rules and FL rules? So, if one is proven, they’re all proven and if one falls, they all fall?

Largely, yes. There's 49 charges to do with accurate financial information over 9 years, and another 31 to do with PL & FFP rules. So if the 49 fail, the other 31 probably do as well. The other 30 (yes, I've counted them) relate to non-cooperation and failing to act in utmost good faith over 5 years.

As someone said on Twitter, "100 Premier League charges, you'll never sing that".

 

[JPAMCR]

Qatar now interested in buying the rags. How convenient. It just gets smellier and smellier.

Was thinking that.

Independent regulator more likely to stop Qatar buying the red shite so PL charges us, trying to show no need for regulation.

The day the government report was due.

Remind me, who was the one club in favour?

Stinks to high heaven.

 

[Keeper!]

The charge on UEFA's FFP rules and the explanation given by the athletic had me thinking.

If you have follow and respect UEFA's rules because "you signed up to them", even when you are not in that competition. Then Liverpool's 2014 FFP failings might be worth a revisit for City's legal team too. There will probably be some loophole but that would be absolutely delicious, if the PL then had to investigate them and charge them. Better still the £50m fake stadium write off absolutely has them snookered. City win their case because the PL have no evidence, Liverpool lose theirs.

Let's just clear our issues before we worry about the dippers.

 

[Norbert D]

Thankfully that wasn't the year we've been charged for but let's keep that quiet

That’s when the FA helpfully gave us the latest game on Sunday when we had a CL away game (in Russia I think) on the Tuesday.

clear and organised

 

[waspish]

Hope city got plenty of shit on those history clubs

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Anyone think the premier league may offer us a settlement

I think UEFA tried that tactic. They threw the book at us then Ceferin came to Manchester to try and cut a deal but Khaldoon wasn't having it. There was too much bad blood and we knew UEFA had no evidence. It was a bluff by UEFA which backfired. I can't believe the PL are stupid enough to make the same mistake but you never know.