PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

I cannot be sure who actually knows stuff and what is supposition. I read in one article that many of the 110 PL Rules’ infringements are the same infringement repeated over 9-10 years, so possibly 10 offences x 10 years. If correct, disprove 1 you disprove 10.

If City have tried to circumvent any PL rules, then I’m surprised that, with all our resources, we have left a trail that PL auditors were able to uncover, unless, possibly, they got “insider” assistance.

 

[Bluemoonadam]

I say hope but I really don’t see it

Yes I think its wishful thinking from alot of us as well me also.

 

[Centurions]

Looks like it

I though it was about image rights, not related parties?

 

[HorlocksWalk]

Shame Sepp Blatter is not running the PL we could have negotiated

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Of course they can ask for stuff and it’s a good idea to give it but I carnt see what they would be given that’s different. And the PL are not charging us just because they don’t have information.

We don't know the details yet, but there is a distinct possibility that they are charging us because they don't have information because we've withheld it. One of the things CAS said was that they believed it wouldn't have got to them if we'd cooperated in the first place.

 

[Dave El Magico]

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Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

Great article that. Just tells the real story!

 

[Ric]

No. Auditors would say they were also misled if that case was proved.

I realise that you’re getting bombarded with questions, so apologies for adding another! Is it really plausible that we would’ve been able to continually deceive/mislead a firm as credible as BDO over such a long period of time? Would it be pretty damaging to their reputation if this was all going on directly under their noses?

 

[ancoats]

can we run with this about inflated figures ?
come on United, show us your books before you start calling us cheats ? they have been at for years

Manchester police distance themselves from report revealing up to 16,000 are added to United attendance figures

Manchester United and Greater Manchester Police have poured cast doubt on claims that the Red Devils have been adding up to 16,000 on attendance figures at Old Trafford.

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Manchester police distance themselves from report revealing up to 16,000 are added to United attendance figures

Manchester United and Greater Manchester Police have poured cast doubt on claims that the Red Devils have been adding up to 16,000 on attendance figures at Old Trafford.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Bluemoonadam]

Maybe for a reason, we will find out in the coming months.

Fingers crossed we have, I'd of thought we'd of leaked alot of things regarding other clubs after the uefa case especially at the hateful 8, so I don't think we have much on them personally.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

What I'd like is our Owners, Manager and Players to come out fighting ..

You oh think the owners won’t? They’ve got this and the CFG. We’ll smash the PL, but will
cause the decline of the PL. They brought it on to themselves!

 

[Damanino]

only way to counter this is to get one referee from last 10 years to admit he was told to cheat against City.

 

[dario2739]

Sorry, who are you defending Bayern,VW or Leterme with a big list of allegations against him? That man is dishonest and has worked with the Qataris. Qatar Airways are still a Bayern commercial partner last I looked(official airline partner). Not sure how much of a motive that is though. That's more relevant to the PSG "mistake" when he somehow failed one of the biggest parts of his job: "Oh... So QTA is overvalued???... Must have missed that, sorry boss". I just don't think he can be trusted on his word. He has said the Premier League have a stronger case against City in general, seems far more vocal than he was about PSG(did he not comment or did he comment but nobody cared?), who were actually let off on a technicality.

Should also be questioned – how does he know the PL have a stronger case? Has he seen the case against us? Would be damning if so!

 

[Iassel]

Anyone think the premier league may offer us a settlement

No. They’ve raised some of the most serious allegations in sporting history - footballs version of the RUSADA scandal.

This is not something you settle with a fine. Either the PL win big, or City win big.

 

[Centurions]

I cannot be sure who actually knows stuff and what is supposition. I read in one article that many of the 110 PL Rules’ infringements are the same infringement repeated over 9-10 years, so possibly 10 offences x 10 years. If correct, disprove 1 you disprove 10.

If City have tried to circumvent any PL rules, then I’m surprised that, with all our resources, we have left a trail that PL auditors were able to uncover, unless, possibly, they got “insider” assistance.

It's all supposition to be honest as nobody here actually know what the charges relate to specifically. You are right about the domino effect on a lot of the charges though (IMHO).

 

[Keeper!]

Fingers crossed we have, I'd of thought we'd of leaked alot of things regarding other clubs after the uefa case especially at the hateful 8, so I don't think we have much on them personally.

As said yesterday I hope the reason we have been so passive on the media attacks on our club was not for reasons of fear.

 

[Bez]

What is stopping the Premier League handing out a very harsh punishment knowing full well it is unfair, but knowing it will appease the baying mob, at least initially. Will the punishment be deferred pending an appeal from City? Equally, what is stopping the appeal process from handing out an equally tough punishment knowing City will seek legal redress whatever that means. My main concern is whether the punishment is deferred and only implemented once all avenues have been exhausted? Does anyone on here actually know the process or are we all just guessing at the stage? I am assuming the latter.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Largely, yes. There's 49 charges to do with accurate financial information over 9 years, and another 31 to do with PL & FFP rules. So if the 49 fail, the other 31 probably do as well. The other 30 (yes, I've counted them) relate to non-cooperation and failing to act in utmost good faith over 5 years.

As someone said on Twitter, "100 Premier League charges, you'll never sing that".

I think, a song about our grass being too long would be quite good.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I realise that you’re getting bombarded with questions, so apologies for adding another! Is it really plausible that we would’ve been able to continually deceive/mislead a firm as credible as BDO over such a long period of time? Would it be pretty damaging to their reputation if this was all going on directly under their noses?

And not just City's, but all of the auditors of all the sponsors as well?

 

[Metalartin]

The joke was that UEFA appealed to CAS against their own decision that PSG sponsorship was at fair value.

Wait, I misread that. That's confusing but I got there eventually. :)

I thought PSG were the ones who went to CAS because UEFA tried to charge them when they weren't able to.

 

[KingGeorge]

A quick thought for dealing with opposing fans. I had a Liverpool fan tell me I should admit some guilt. Of course in the Anglo-American justice system you are innocent until proven guilty. It is idiotic to tell somebody to admit guilt.

I responded with City will have its day in court. He went quiet.

another response that I like as well:

I am confident City's good name will cleared in court.

My point being don't take any grief from opposing fans. Express confidence in public and ignore any bait they send your way. If you become disillusioned come on here and get some support from your fellow fan. We will ride out this storm together as a fanbase.