How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Gingers Dad said:
Sunak says that NI is in a better situation than the rest of the UK because it has access to the single market. A couple of weeks ago Johnson said the Ukraine would be better off in the EU.
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Its OK Number 10 has already dealt with that issuing a statement saying he doesn't endorse the same for the rest of the UK.......he's mad if he thinks that will fly as an answer
 
From chatting to people here theres an opinion that the DUP could have played a blinder here. If they get onboard with this, and its better for NI then they could argue they were right in collapsing Stormont and forcing this issue.

NI being this "half way house" between the UK and the EU, and an attractive place to invest, could mean there is less "push" towards a border poll...and as a result, strengthening the Union....all can be construed as a result of the DUPs actions
 
Just heard a bit of Sunak's Q&A in Northern Ireland - he came over very well, I thought, no bluster, no snide digs, even the odd wry comment that didn't sound totally rehearsed.

I assume that Steve Baker, now a minister, will be having a frosty discussion Mogg and Johnson (okay, the latter will jab a pudgy finger and bellow incoherently) about how an ERG leader can support this deal.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I’m being flippant and haven’t really thought this through, but it occurred to me that somewhere in all of this, which the DUP are going to love, is a blueprint for a 32 county Ireland. Whether a republic or federal, is another question, but bare with me.

You can see with this new protocol, which the EU sort of wanted in the first place, that the UK government are not going to give a toss what happens to red channel goods going into NI, it’ll be the EU’s concern to check them coming into Ireland. Similarly the UK government won’t concern themselves with green channel goods that should be red channel and are then illegally shifted across the border. Let the Assembly that will no doubt be up and running ;-) work that out with their neighbours i.e. us.

So what would a perfect solution be for the EU.
I don’t know, maybe if all of Ireland had the same special relationship with the UK. It would solve a lot of problems.
Slippery slope? Maybe but for who? Sinn Fein or the DUP?

As I say I’m being flippant but there is quite a lot to think through in there.
Not just for Northern Irish people, but us down south too.
You lot in GB wouldn’t give a toss one way or the other, I’m guessing.
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I'm moving from Scotland to NI.
House prices far cheaper and weekend trips South.
Whats not to like?
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
From chatting to people here theres an opinion that the DUP could have played a blinder here. If they get onboard with this, and its better for NI then they could argue they were right in collapsing Stormont and forcing this issue.

NI being this "half way house" between the UK and the EU, and an attractive place to invest, could mean there is less "push" towards a border poll...and as a result, strengthening the Union....all can be construed as a result of the DUPs actions
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Did they not vote with Johnson to get it through in the first place and then decided they didn’t like it?
 
So, access to the single market and the UK market is brilliant and the envy of the world, if you’re Northern Ireland.
Joining the EU is brilliant, if you’re Ukraine.
And these are the very same people who’ve denied all that to the rest of us. The country is, somehow, getting less fathomable on an almost daily basis…
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
From chatting to people here theres an opinion that the DUP could have played a blinder here. If they get onboard with this, and its better for NI then they could argue they were right in collapsing Stormont and forcing this issue.

NI being this "half way house" between the UK and the EU, and an attractive place to invest, could mean there is less "push" towards a border poll...and as a result, strengthening the Union....all can be construed as a result of the DUPs actions
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They could certainly try and spin it that way, but I highly doubt any of this is by DUP design. I'll be amazed if they don't try and scupper it tbh as I can imagine playing second fiddle to Sinn Fein is the last thing they'll be happy with.
 
joe123 said:
They could certainly try and spin it that way, but I highly doubt any of this is by DUP design. I'll be amazed if they don't try and scupper it tbh as I can imagine playing second fiddle to Sinn Fein is the last thing they'll be happy with.
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But come the next election, it will undoubtedly be their angle...and they could easily swing it to beat SF again
 
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