Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

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SJT said:
The population density of the this country is ridiculous, someone has to address it, Starmer melts if he leaves London, the mans a champagne socialist, Labour has NO policy on this issue, someone has to man-up, or woman-up in this case, an open door policy?...good on Braverman
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Why don't you do your bit to help out and swallow your phone's battery.
 
hilts said:
No, hence the current part. That comprehension thing again. Pmsl.
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Didn't have you down as a student union politics type.

How do you suppose we get a better fair and current policy by announcing we want to take even less asylum seekers?
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Didn't have you down as a student union politics type.

How do you suppose we get a better fair and current policy by announcing we want to take even less asylum seekers?
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Why do you think i would take less? Especially as we are in effect attempting to take none.

You are now the 4th poster that has now read a post and just made shit up. It has reminded me why this subject is beyond debate on here.

And to round it off we had the laughable we have loads of room in the countryside point. Which never fails to raise a laugh such is its stupidity.

The world is a changing and countries need to wise up and the solution isn't to be found with the racists or those lacking realism or common sense.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I wasn't appointing blame on the uncontrolled immigration , just pointing out that it happened during our tenure in the EU.

I saw on the news yesterday that the majority of those currently coming over on boats are in fact from Albania.

www.bbc.com

Albanian migrants: Why are they coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

Why are Albanian migrants coming to the UK and how many have arrived?
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

It's reasonable to assume that the majority of these people are not refugees is it not? So it's reasonable to assume that once rejected they will continue to get in boats like they do now.

It's very hard to see how to stop this happening is the point I was making.
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You‘ll never stop people getting in boats, but with legitimate cases being processed in France, the numbers of boats and occupants would be dramatically reduced, and you could be fairly confident that those in the boats , having not applied properly, or at all, could be deemed to be actually illegal and could be arrested and detained on arrival here. All without breaking a single international law, or human rights convention, or UN refugee regulation.
Of course, the problem would be willingness on the part of this appalling government to undertake this, but there are no votes in being measured and intelligent anbout the ‘enemy’.
 
hilts said:
Why do you think i would take less? Especially as we are in effect attempting to take none.

You are now the 4th poster that has now read a post and just made shit up. It has reminded me why this subject is beyond debate on here.

And to round it off we had the laughable we have loads of room in the countryside point. Which never fails to raise a laugh such is its stupidity.

The world is a changing and countries need to wise up and the solution isn't to be found with the racists or those lacking realism or common sense.
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So what's your solution?

The EU tried to set up a quota system following the migrant crisis in 2015 and was told to fuck by Orban etc.

How do we get to a fair system with increasingly fascistic governments in countries such as our own?

It only takes some right wingers to shit in the pan to spoil the soup.
 
mexico1970 said:
I suspect you are just not making any sense and can't understand why someone doesn't believe what you believe.

That has got nothing to do with anything at all has it? What in the world has the out of Africa theory got to do with modern migration.

"Unsuccessful applicant would be returned to their country of origin" doesn't really wash does it unless we have the facility to force them back.

Prison would be best until they agreed to go no?
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Yes. Prisons in every red wall district because that's where land and property is cheapest.
 
blueparrot said:
A majority don’t come from Albania ,just over a quarter do. Most likely the quarter whose claimes get rejected but thats just a guess on my part. So that leaves the 70 plus percemt whose claims are accepted and are therefore genuine. These 79 percent of genuine refugees are the one we are saying we won’t even bother listening to their story.
www.bbc.co.uk

Albanian migrants: Why are they coming to the UK and how many have arrived?

Why are Albanian migrants coming to the UK and how many have arrived?
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
Also when in the EU in wasn’t uncontrolled , in fact it was needed and is still needed now.
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Can you remind me what controls we had in place for migration from the EU ? I don't recall any.

As regards the figures from Albania they were reported last night by our national broadcaster.
 
Cricket Blue said:
Be Australia mate
Anywhere is better than here
Glad my dad isn't still alive too be honest it's been awful here the last few years
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North Korea has full employment.
Haiti has a (witch) doctor that you can see immediately without an appointment.
Somalia has real pirates, none of your British Captain Pugwash shite.
I think you might be on to something here with this “anywhere is better” schtick.
 
SJT said:
The population density of the this country is ridiculous, someone has to address it, Starmer melts if he leaves London, the mans a champagne socialist, Labour has NO policy on this issue, someone has to man-up, or woman-up in this case, an open door policy?...good on Braverman
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Oh Goodie! a fucking idiot who needs schooling.

The UK is 51st on the list of countries with high population densities behind places such as

Bangladesh
Lebanon
Rwanda :))
India
Korea
Holland
Israel
Belgium
Phillipines
Japan
Sri Lanka
Pakistan.

It is only just more dense than Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

The four least dense countries are Greenland, Namibia, Australia and Mongolia.

As for "champagne socialist" do you not understand that the point of Socialism is everyone can drink Champagne, it is not the reserve of the capitalist class.

There is no open door policy, it is a lie that was used to scare people into voting for Brexit. Free movement of people was never an open door policy, it was a prerequisite for being a member of the EU.

I do not know if you have noticed, but Labour are not in Government, their job is to oppose legislation that they think will harm the country. Oppositions of whatever hue do not need policies they can not implement thanks to the advarsarial nature of UK parliamentary democracy.

It is rather telling you think Braverman is doing a good job, she has overt fascist tendencies, she is an "otherer" of people, a dangerous road to go down, Its telling she wants to stop small boats, see she does not see the people in those boats as human beings, she sees them as scum who threaten her way of life. What she has done is throw red meat to the far right because the Tories are now so desperate to cling to power they have nothing else.

That fucking lying clown Johnson is responsible, he got rid of the one nation Tories and left them closer aligned to the BNP and NF than the sensible Conservatism of old. If you are enjoying the slide towards Fascism, then you are a fucking idiot.
 
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