The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

I note that not all sports pundits agree with Gary Linekers right to speak out on political issues, Jonathan Agnew has said in the past that he would have been sacked for expressing his opinions like Lineaker has.

Lineker responded to agnew with his usual superior arrogance which is why is dislike him.

I wonder how many actually agree with what he has said or his right to tweet it, obviously two different things, but closely intertwined.
 
Woke up to still see multiple reports about this issue. Am I right in saying that despite being employed as a freelancer Lineker still has to follow BBC guidelines about impartiality? Whether you agreed with his comments or not isn’t it the case that in the opinion of his bosses he has broken these guidelines or is the argument that he hasn’t? Personally I think he is a boring, overpaid, smug twat who thinks he is really funny when the reality is he isn’t.
 
Might give MOTD a go tonight(dependant on results),but if they do need someone to do the introductions, how about Clive ,if he can do Mastermind and calmly stand in a war zone, he could cope with reading out the names of a few football clubs.As for pundits,if really necessary, V.K. and Buzzer would be my choice.
 
mattcity5 said:
I'm actually amazed that the thread has the title as a question. And that some think it's not the case.

I can only presume that when you're stood that extremely far over to the right, everything else appears to be to the left. This government are slowly whipping up hatred, currently for migrants, as a form of keeping control by division. Where will they stop? Who knows. Everyone who wants this to be a decent country should call them out when needed.
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When I look at England and see that David Attenborough and Gary Lineker can be portrayed as politically subversive, it is deeply concerning.
 
dave_blue12 said:
But it’s not wrong. Much of the language used by the Tories and their policies bear a striking resemblance to the Nazis in the1930’s.

Here are just a few off the top of my head.

1. Control of the media
2. Removal of worker’s rights
3. Repeated lies
4. Targeting minorities (asylum seekers)
5. Squashing dissent both inside and outside of the party. All dissenters to the direction of the part were removed before the 2019 GE.
6. International isolation.
7. Removing power of the courts
8. Interference in the election process. The Electoral Commission is now under government control. Photo ID to vote makes voting much more difficult for sections of society.

I could go but have things to do.
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Or you could have said many of your examples also apply to most other countries and governments at one time or another ;)
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I didn't say he did compare with the Holocaust?

He's associated the Tories with the Nazis, which is just plain wrong regardless of the semantics of interpreting his language.
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He didn't, unless that is the semantics someone chooses to fuss over. It wasn't wrong either, nor the first time it has happened, the comparison has been made lots of times before. The billboards, the flyers, the vans that went round, windrush, etc. This is just the latest, and yes the language IS very much that of then 1930s (note not the holocaust which was a whole decade later, if we are going down the semantics rabbit hole). And it absolutely should be drawn to attention and the comparison not only made but dwelled on. Regardless of what party does it, and what position of power they are in. And we should as a public be sensible enough to recognise it and admit it, not go off on tangents using technicalities and tribalism to ensure we don't budge on the divide.
 
Never watch it anyway until it is on iplayer.
That way I can just see what they say about City and forward every thing else.
I watch the highlights on YouTube more than motd.
 
Eds said:
Woke up to still see multiple reports about this issue. Am I right in saying that despite being employed as a freelancer Lineker still has to follow BBC guidelines about impartiality? Whether you agreed with his comments or not isn’t it the case that in the opinion of his bosses he has broken these guidelines or is the argument that he hasn’t? Personally I think he is a boring, overpaid, smug twat who thinks he is really funny when the reality is he isn’t.
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He's a freelancer for a very good reason, like quite a few BBC 'staff'.

Most have had to pay money back to HMRC for personal service companies, including Stephen Nolan and Fiona Bruce.
 
hilts said:
Mention it in everyday life? It's only just happened. How many peoples opinion have you canvassed?

The few people I have spoke to think the Beeb have dropped a bollock but I'm not claiming that means anything.

People overwhelming think Lineker is a berk? Erm......
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In the pub is what I said. But hey have seen that people have already determined that firstly I and everyone in the pub was drunk and we were all macho. Lol
Amazing how they can determine this without being there. But you can twist anything arround on social media to suit a narrative.

I offer an opinion and an observation but I must be wrong as others don't agree. Happens all the time on here.
 
Eds said:
Woke up to still see multiple reports about this issue. Am I right in saying that despite being employed as a freelancer Lineker still has to follow BBC guidelines about impartiality? Whether you agreed with his comments or not isn’t it the case that in the opinion of his bosses he has broken these guidelines or is the argument that he hasn’t? Personally I think he is a boring, overpaid, smug twat who thinks he is really funny when the reality is he isn’t.
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Oh no people won't like that.

The same people on here who no doubt would be calling for him to be sacked for breaking impartiality guidance if his tweets were right leaning?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I note that not all sports pundits agree with Gary Linekers right to speak out on political issues, Jonathan Agnew has said in the past that he would have been sacked for expressing his opinions like Lineaker has.

Lineker responded to agnew with his usual superior arrogance which is why is dislike him.

I wonder how many actually agree with what he has said or his right to tweet it, obviously two different things, but closely intertwined.
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Is that the Jonathan Agnew who wasn’t punished when he posted a series of abusive tweets to a journalist including calling him a ****?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
In the pub is what I said. But hey have seen that people have already determined that firstly I and everyone in the pub was drunk and we were all macho. Lol
Amazing how they can determine this without being there. But you can twist anything arround on social media to suit a narrative.

I offer an opinion and an observation but I must be wrong as others don't agree. Happens all the time on here.
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I'm not sure pub talk means much mate. Having an opinion is fine(Lineker excepted:-)) endlessly repeating it is a different story. Whether someone thinks he is a berk is irrelevant.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I didn't say he did compare with the Holocaust?

He's associated the Tories with the Nazis, which is just plain wrong regardless of the semantics of interpreting his language.
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sorry I should add, given I mentioned it, I know you didn't. Patel did, which is what escalated it and caused the BBC to act, so my reference to it was to her, not you.
 
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