The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

dave_blue12 said:
So Lineker hasn’t actually broken the guidelines.

Yet the right wing wankers have suspended him.

Another dead cat methinks
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He must have, as a few people seem to have read the guidelines or are privy to his contract or have read the bbc charter or, in some cases, all 3 and they’ve assured everyone he’s breached both his contract and the impartiality rules……….
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The outpouring is support is from everyone with any insight and human decency in the UK.
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Thank you @Didsbury Dave I am so weary of reading that GL compared the Government to Nazi Germany but no notion of saying he was showing, whatever you think of him et Al, decent human behaviour.
Also did GL ever use the word Nazi? Or did he just say the 1930s Germany? There is a difference. Yes the political picture in Germany showed the Nazis were on the rise at that time but they didn’t take over straight away. Without pretending to read GL’s mind I would think (hope) he probably deliberately left out the word Nazi because he knows the connotations people fix to that word. JMHO
 
I though most people watched on delay and fast forwarded the wise monkeys anyway. I never understood why people want to know Shearer is "impressed with" or "disappointed with" a player, or why the BBC employ (or pretend not to employ IR35) people without a basic grasp of English.

Get rid of the lot, like some of the iplayer FA Cup games, just show the game/highlights and the odd replay.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
He wants to be outraged.

Whilst our govn go all China he wants the country to be tory blue no matter what the cost.
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I’m not outraged at all. You can have an argument and make your point without being outraged.

I’m simply pointing out that if someone is referencing 1930s Germany, it’s clear what the reference relates to. Why else would Lineker make that particular reference in the first place?

Also, the bit about tory blue etc is irrelevant, and nothing to do with Lineker making a comment that would inevitably cause offence. If someone like Jeremy Clarkson was making the comment I would also find it inappropriate and unnecessary.
 
Brewster's millions said:
I’m not outraged at all. You can have an argument and make your point without being outraged.

I’m simply pointing out that if someone is referencing 1930s Germany, it’s clear what the reference relates to. Why else would Lineker make that particular reference in the first place?

Also, the bit about tory blue etc is irrelevant, and nothing to do with Lineker making a comment that would inevitably cause offence. If someone like Jeremy Clarkson was making the comment I would also find it inappropriate and unnecessary.
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He said it because the language the tories, particularly braveman are using is the same
 
meltonblue said:
If you read the full guidance, it’s pretty vague about which elements of the policy apply and who to.

The other issue is it’s not consistently applied either.
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I’ve read the full guidance and highlighted the bit about those with high profiles as only an idiot wouldn’t work out that Lineker fits that category.
 
Talking of 1930s Germany....

When Manchester City played in Berlin and foiled the Nazi propaganda machine​

English champions went to Germany in 1937 on a hot streak to take on Hitler’s ‘political soldiers’ and came back with heads held high – but not their arms

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City’s Peter Doherty said the players decided not to do a Nazi salute, but only stand to attention

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...the-nazi-propaganda-machine-a6672906.html?amp
 
PPT said:
I thought the presenters were contractually obliged to present and do what they get paid for? So if they don’t fulfil their contracts then cancel them. All of them. Immediately. Then bring in some new ‘talent’ and some new blood on acceptable salaries. The viewing figures of MOTD would not change one iota either up or down if Lineaker and his cronies didn’t present it and someone else did. People tune in to watch the game and see the goals. Not to watch Shearer to repeat his bog standard ‘analysis’ every week. The sooner the BBC and the presenters realise this the better for all concerned.
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None of them are salaried, unlike the commentators who are BBC staffers.
 
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SWP's back said:
I’ve read the full guidance and highlighted the bit about those with high profiles as only an idiot wouldn’t work out that Lineker fits that category.
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That same guidance classes someone like Lineker (I.e. a sports presenter commenting on political issues) as low risk though. I’d argue only an idiot (or someone with deliberate motivations) would actually think Lineker views, posted on a highly active personal account, are indicative of the BBC’s position on the matter - that was also the BBCs position both with this initially, previously with Lineker and also with others.
 
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Thinking about it, I don't want this argument to be put back in its box with some mealy mouthed words on both sides to restore an unsteady peace.

The issues of the BBCs relationship with government and levels of interference in our national broadcaster have been a open sore for far too long now and it is debilitating parts of the BBC. The situation needs a full and frank airing and an outcome that allows the BBC to continue with whatever the majority in the nation want it's mission to be.

Personally I hope that those who would wish to see it cowed, used as a culture war tool, or dismantled and defunded are on the losing side of this argument.
 
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