Would you report your neighbour

[Indaparkside]

If you thought they were a benefit cheat. Woman works 16hrs with 1 child 6 year old, the father only shows up on his birthday and Xmas, I think he pays cash for him otherwise legit he would want access to his son.also only working 16 hrs allows her all sorts of claims for financial help.holidays to Florida last year and wants for nothing.

Busy fucker snitches get stitches mind your own fucking business you grassing ****

 

[Blue Mist]

“even the cleaners”…..

I think gdm is using a wide brush stroke. 'Even the cleaners' will also refer to other lowly staff, the gardeners, the footman, maid in fact anyone seen in Upstairs Downstairs.

 

[Stephen230]

Bet the DSS get inundated with these nosey neighbour complaints. The fact is the system allows her to be paid out and therefore there’s not a cat in hell’s chance of any uptake on these complaints.

Back in the 1980s I briefly worked at what was then called the DHSS. They had a three person fraud department who were nicknamed The Sweeney and people had this impression that they were a crack bunch of undercover investigators. The reality was that about 5% of the people they caught was by looking at out of their window and seeing taxi drivers pull up in the carpark and come into the office. And the other 95% waiting by the phone for busy, jealous, twats to grass their neighbours up.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

A fair few of the barmaids in my local have young kids so I guess working like they do is beneficial.

 

[snorky]

Don't listen to all these do gooders op.

Try breaking into her place whilst she's out to gather more information... and have a good snuffle about in her pantie drawer.

 

[Stephen230]

How the fecking hell does the OP know his neighbour works 16 hours a week? Does he sit there at window clocking her in n out? Sounds to me like he’s the one with issues here. Get a hobby OP - that doesn’t involve spying on your neighbours.

I was working on the assumption that the original post was more than likely an in joke with another poster. But you do get these type of stories all the time on various platforms and I think the vast majority of the time they’re either anecdotal or just shit stirring total bullshit.

They often involve knowledge of how many cigarettes the culprits smoke a day. How many cans of strong lager they put away on a daily basis and exactly which channels are included in their Sky TV package.

Christ, I don’t even know my next door neighbours first name.

 

[law74]

As an ex benefit fraud investigator over many years neither do I.

Background......Anyone who is reported will be 'scored' on info received and checked out.

If and only if it's felt there's a case to answer will the customer know anything about any investigation.

If she's failing to declare work/savings that'll ping pretty quickly on checks and are straightforward cases, it's things like living with a partner which is a greyer area.

No reason why they wouldn't be entitled to benefit if working 16 hours per week and maintenance payments for the child will be disregarded, I agree.
Though depending on how the information scores, it may not lead to a criminal investigation but a compliance interview, whereby they would have a challenging and robust interview to confirm that the information held by the office that pays benefits is up to date.
Agree that living together cases can be tricky to prove beyond reasonable doubt, though disability in doubt can be more difficult.
Based on the information provided by the OP there is no indication of any abuse of the system.

 

[Rascal]

If you thought they were a benefit cheat. Woman works 16hrs with 1 child 6 year old, the father only shows up on his birthday and Xmas, I think he pays cash for him otherwise legit he would want access to his son.also only working 16 hrs allows her all sorts of claims for financial help.holidays to Florida last year and wants for nothing.

First off.

Its not fucking benefits its WELFARE, this governments narrative of calling WELFARE benefits makes it sound like they are gifts.

Secondly I have been reported, its fucking horrible and demeaning.

I had leg ulcers and was going to Salford Royal to have them dressed three times a week. As I know the staff there really well the nurses asked me if i could go early and the night staff could put my legs in soak for an hour and the day staff could do the dressings. So i left my house around 6am three days a week for two months and some **** reported me for going to work. I had to produce a years bank accounts and attend an interview where I was interrogated by two people for an hour. They went through my bank account with a fine tooth comb asking about everything. Luckily I had an hospital appointment card and referral letter, plus I will not be awed by some officious twats.

Thirdly, you nosy ****, how the fuck do you know so much about her personal circumstances? Its none of your fucking business so keep your fucking conk out you sad twat.

 

[snorky]

Thirdly, you nosy ****, how the fuck do you know so much about her personal circumstances? Its none of your fucking business so keep your fucking conk out you sad twat.

But what do you Really think Rasc? :)

 

[Blue Mist]

I was working on the assumption that the original post was more than likely an in joke with another poster. But you do get these type of stories all the time on various platforms and I think the vast majority of the time they’re either anecdotal or just shit stirring total bullshit.

They often involve knowledge of how many cigarettes the culprits smoke a day. How many cans of strong lager they put away on a daily basis and exactly which channels are included in their Sky TV package.

Christ, I don’t even know my next door neighbours first name.

Deborah

 

[Lavinda Past]

If you thought they were a benefit cheat. Woman works 16hrs with 1 child 6 year old, the father only shows up on his birthday and Xmas, I think he pays cash for him otherwise legit he would want access to his son.also only working 16 hrs allows her all sorts of claims for financial help.holidays to Florida last year and wants for nothing.

Mind your own business. Curtain twitchers are wankers.

 

[snorky]

Deborah

Deb's to her friends.

 

[threespires]

They do mate, one of my daughters has been reported so many times that she’s on first name terms with some of the Benefits staff, some even apologise first about contacting her again because they’ve had another ‘anonymous call’.
They went through her home life, her accounts (even money I’d given her to help her out), the relationship and situation with the kids dad etc etc with a fine tooth comb and were more than satisfied.

It’s no doubt the same handful of beaky nosed, busy cunts, and all she did was give up her 12 hour, 7 nights a week minimum pay job giving ‘end of life care’ the other side of town to better hers and the kids lives by qualifying to go to University (despite having dyslexia and dyscalculia), all because with part of the grant she passed her test, bought a cheap as fuck car to help ferry the kids to school and get her to University ( saving about 4 hours a day) and some neighbours see fit to ‘grass her up’, they say fuck all about the registered peado over the road mind, pisses me right off.

Incidentally, most charities estimate there’s about £15 billion in unclaimed benefits.

Firstly, well played to your daughter. Obviously I'm guessing as I don't know the details, but what she chose to do typically takes a lot of guts (especially if her earlier experience of formal education wasn't great) and ongoing determination and resilience. There are a lot of people in this country who aren't malicious as such but are genuinely clueless about how difficult it is to 'get out from under' as it were. Instead of busy twats making life harder, you'd like to think someone like your daughter would be held up as a role model to inspire other people who are in a similar situation but through a combination of lack of confidence and practical barriers like transport are too fearful to try. Taking a risk and backing yourself when you don't have a safety net takes a level of bottle and personal responsibility that many of the people who lecture the general public about 'taking responsibility' have zero clue about.

 

[Lavinda Past]

I think gdm is using a wide brush stroke. 'Even the cleaners' will also refer to other lowly staff, the gardeners, the footman, maid in fact anyone seen in Upstairs Downstairs.

I'm sure that GDM would employ someone else to apply said 'wide brush stroke' rather than do such a task personally.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Firstly, well played to your daughter. Obviously I'm guessing as I don't know the details, but what she chose to do typically takes a lot of guts (especially if her earlier experience of formal education wasn't great) and ongoing determination and resilience. There are a lot of people in this country who aren't malicious as such but are genuinely clueless about how difficult it is to 'get out from under' as it were. Instead of busy twats making life harder, you'd like to think someone like your daughter would be held up as a role model to inspire other people who are in a similar situation but through a combination of lack of confidence and practical barriers like transport are too fearful to try. Taking a risk and backing yourself when you don't have a safety net takes a level of bottle and personal responsibility that many of the people who lecture the general public about 'taking responsibility' have zero clue about.

Thanks for that mate, very much appreciated, she’s a survivor for sure, worse thing is, and I say this without an ounce of bias, she’s the most beautiful, kind, caring and considerate human being I’ve ever known, even as a child (and it doesn’t come from me or her mother either), the letters she’s had from families who she’s seen through their ‘end of life care’ have genuinely had me in tears.

 

[MadchesterCity]

If you thought they were a benefit cheat. Woman works 16hrs with 1 child 6 year old, the father only shows up on his birthday and Xmas, I think he pays cash for him otherwise legit he would want access to his son.also only working 16 hrs allows her all sorts of claims for financial help.holidays to Florida last year and wants for nothing.

Excuse my ignorance, what’s the crime?

 

[MadchesterCity]

Think carefully. Enforcing child poverty can seem like a good idea, I agree. But it's important to remember economic truths. First, that childhood poverty has life long debilitating effects.

The second economic truth is that of "Opportunity cost". Ask yourself, would dobbing this girl in cost you the opportunity to make more children more poor? After all, one should aim for the maximum return on the investment of your time and idle jealousy. In this case, that would be inflicting the most human misery and harm possible.

That suggests there is some other, greater evil that you could serve here. Could you not simply "accidentally" infect them with a nasty infectious disease that had long term debilitating consequences? Or perhaps traumatise them psychologically. Remember to escape from being held to account for your actions by employing a devious strategy of manipulation and 'gaslighting'.

Perhaps she has a successful drug or eBay empire

 

[Two Gun Bob]

Its a difficult connundrum as the U.K "benefit" system is steeped with complex rules. Taking the new Universal Credit system that most working folk are privy to, it's not the hours a claimant works, only the amount of money earned over their nominated work allowance. Depending on circumstances, work allowances vary per individual. Currently set at 45p in the pound to encourage claimants to work (making work pay).

A terrible situation that the government has to step in with assistance, owing to conglomerats and the greedy ones paying buttons, but thats the nature of the beast. The low setting of the minium wage is a stain on our society, as is it's variation dependent on your age.

I'm waffling so I wont, and on the above basis will not be calling the lady in for interview .. case remains unproven.
As for the Florida run, she may have fallen down a pot hole or experianced a nasty trip or fall, securing a no win no fee wedge. Investing her pot in a lovely holiday would afford her and her child great pleasure in a mundane world, and anyway would have to be spent up as deductions kick in over 6k.

Not withstanding other benefits, there was 5.9 million people in reciept of the U.C in Jan 23 .. so curtain twichers everywhere are going to be busy busy bees.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I think gdm is using a wide brush stroke. 'Even the cleaners' will also refer to other lowly staff, the gardeners, the footman, maid in fact anyone seen in Upstairs Downstairs.

Even the cleaners are on £20 per hour.
Presumably theyll be self employed. No sick pay, no hol pay etc etc.

Even cleaners are allowed to earn a living

 

[stonerblue]

If you thought they were a benefit cheat. Woman works 16hrs with 1 child 6 year old, the father only shows up on his birthday and Xmas, I think he pays cash for him otherwise legit he would want access to his son.also only working 16 hrs allows her all sorts of claims for financial help.holidays to Florida last year and wants for nothing.

Keep your conk out.