What has the UK become under the far right influence?

BobKowalski said:
It’s almost painful. It’s like conspiracy bingo.

In this post, and pretty much all of your posts, the one player that you fail to mention is the one that ordered this invasion and has led us into this sorry and tragic mess.

Not one mention of Putin. Clinton and Blackrock? Check. Putin. No. Not one reference to Russia, the country that launched the actual invasion and is currently fighting and killing on Ukrainian soil. As it did in Chechnya and Georgia.

Do you ever stop to consider how bizarre this is? It’s like railing at the participants in WWII and forgetting to mention Hitler or Germany or their role in it. That is how insane your posts sound.
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Still, there's a lot of jobs involved in armaments. When new submarine contracts are announced, it's more about the jobs than what the subs are for.

But who's this Clinton of whom he speaks?
 
BobKowalski said:
It’s almost painful. It’s like conspiracy bingo.

In this post, and pretty much all of your posts, the one player that you fail to mention is the one that ordered this invasion and has led us into this sorry and tragic mess.

Not one mention of Putin. Clinton and Blackrock? Check. Putin. No. Not one reference to Russia, the country that launched the actual invasion and is currently fighting and killing on Ukrainian soil. As it did in Chechnya and Georgia.

Do you ever stop to consider how bizarre this is? It’s like railing at the participants in WWII and forgetting to mention Hitler or Germany or their role in it. That is how insane your posts sound.
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Trouble is, I don't like repeatedly repeating myself about not condoning the Putin/ Russia invasion. Said it numerous times and I don't fancy repeating it.

What I DO know, is none of you (and it's like denial bingo) at all, note that Clinton and Biden ARE war hawks. Nor do you agree that the invasions of middle eastern countries based on dodgy intel was acceptable. So, I don't play your games as I tend to answer you, but you (the royal you) don't answer me.

Insanity is trying to get you lot to agree that war crimes should be levied against presidents and prime ministers for the death of untold hundreds of thousands of innocents at a conservative level.

But, people like you brush those things under the carpets because those victims are un-relatable to you.

You crack on though, son.
 
Bigga said:
Trouble is, I don't like repeatedly repeating myself about not condoning the Putin/ Russia invasion. Said it numerous times and I don't fancy repeating it.
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A quick search of the Ukraine thread looking for your repeated posts where you don’t condone Putin’s actions came up with this single line that can be just about construed as criticism.
“i don't agree with his position”
Harsh words!

Most of your posts where Putin gets mentioned, and there’s not many, make excuses for him with poorly conceived whataboutery.

It came as no surprise that you’re full of shit.
 
west didsblue said:
A quick search of the Ukraine thread looking for your repeated posts where you don’t condone Putin’s actions came up with this single line that can be just about construed as criticism.
“i don't agree with his position”
Harsh words!

Most of your posts where Putin gets mentioned, and there’s not many, make excuses for him with poorly conceived whataboutery.

It came as no surprise that you’re full of shit.
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LOL!!

So, let's say I attach some more "harsh words" to him; should I send it as a 'strongly worded email' to him?

The fact that I don't agree with his position is a 100x more than you've ever said about Western war hawks.

And that comes "as no surprise as you're full of shit" on that subject! I wouldn't go swinging bats in a telephone box...
 
Bigga said:
Trouble is, I don't like repeatedly repeating myself about not condoning the Putin/ Russia invasion. Said it numerous times and I don't fancy repeating it.

What I DO know, is none of you (and it's like denial bingo) at all, note that Clinton and Biden ARE war hawks. Nor do you agree that the invasions of middle eastern countries based on dodgy intel was acceptable. So, I don't play your games as I tend to answer you, but you (the royal you) don't answer me.

Insanity is trying to get you lot to agree that war crimes should be levied against presidents and prime ministers for the death of untold hundreds of thousands of innocents at a conservative level.

But, people like you brush those things under the carpets because those victims are un-relatable to you.

You crack on though, son.
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AKA no intel at all.....
 
Bigga said:
Trouble is, I don't like repeatedly repeating myself about not condoning the Putin/ Russia invasion. Said it numerous times and I don't fancy repeating it.

What I DO know, is none of you (and it's like denial bingo) at all, note that Clinton and Biden ARE war hawks. Nor do you agree that the invasions of middle eastern countries based on dodgy intel was acceptable. So, I don't play your games as I tend to answer you, but you (the royal you) don't answer me.

Insanity is trying to get you lot to agree that war crimes should be levied against presidents and prime ministers for the death of untold hundreds of thousands of innocents at a conservative level.

But, people like you brush those things under the carpets because those victims are un-relatable to you.

You crack on though, son.
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Not surprising that the 20 year anniversary of Iraq passed with little reflection from the war horny liberal types. Understandable when Campbell/Stewart podcasts are all the rage and the same shit for brains columnists are still in circulation.
 
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Postman Pep said:
Did you read it?
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Yes I did - my question was directed at Govt supporters and the Govt itself who suddenly find loitering in parks something they need to act on - I'd imagine Boggart Hole Clough was opened to be a nice place to go for a Sunday stroll and yes loiter..................in 2023 thats something Tories say they need to "crack down" on. May as well turn it into a housing development.....oh hang on I see a plan....
 
A nation divided by politicians willing to court votes by demonising the vulnerable.

I went for lunch, yesterday, with my parents, and my mum mentioned that she was pleased that it looked like the 'whole benefits business' was going to end soon. My mum is 77, and has fallen into the government trap of blaming the weak. They believed the lies about Brexit, and voted for it, believing that immigration is the reason that they can't get a doctor's appointment. My grandma is 100, and just had to wait six hours for an ambulance after falling. You can imagine who is to blame for that. I am sickened, and saddened, that they have been seduced by charlatans who feed lies to their friends in the press, and equally saddened that they refuse to listen to contradictory views because of their own prejudices.
 
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bluethrunthru said:
Yes I did - my question was directed at Govt supporters and the Govt itself who suddenly find loitering in parks something they need to act on - I'd imagine Boggart Hole Clough was opened to be a nice place to go for a Sunday stroll and yes loiter..................in 2023 thats something Tories say they need to "crack down" on. May as well turn it into a housing development.....oh hang on I see a plan....
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So you read it but still come to the conclusion that the mentality he highlights, the one you continually (rightfully) rage at, is just down to the current government ?
 
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Corky said:
There has been a dedicated scheme for Aghans who helped the MoD been going on for at least 10 years.

They are granted leave to remain before they get the the country and provide with a settled house for their family on arrival. They are not asylum seekers, but an idiot on twitter knows better.

The type of person who is an expert but doesn't realise the massive legal difference between refugees and asylum seekers in the UK, or the ongoing programmes people are working had at, yet doing nothing themselves but moan.
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It is a piece in the Independent and other media. It has also been raised in the House re the difference between settlement under pathway one and pathway two, the latter being the one at issue. The inference is that up to and during the fall of Kabul we were resettling people, but after that we walked away and left them to it, hence the articles.
 
Vic said:
Still, there's a lot of jobs involved in armaments. When new submarine contracts are announced, it's more about the jobs than what the subs are for.

But who's this Clinton of whom he speaks?
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Started the Russian/Ukraine conflict apparently.
 
oldius said:
A nation divided by politicians willing to court votes by demonising the vulnerable.

I went for lunch, yesterday, with my parents, and my mum mentioned that she was pleased that it looked like the 'whole benefits business' was going to end soon. My mum is 77, and has fallen into the government trap of blaming the weak. They believed the lies about Brexit, and voted for it, believing that immigration is the reason that they can't get a doctor's appointment. My grandma is 100, and just had to wait six hours for an ambulance after falling. You can imagine who is to blame for that. I am sickened, and saddened, that they have been seduced by charlatans who feed lies to their friends in the press, and equally saddened that they refuse to listen to contradictory views because of their own prejudices.
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My mum,before she passed away, had a similar view to yours regarding doctors appointments and hospitals.

Trying to explain that the main issues were underfunding and the governments obsession with privatisation by stealth was a main cause,fell on deaf ears.

There is light at the end of the tunnel,in that more people will come to realise, post brexit and whatnot,that they've been had over, hopefully we may then see a change for the better.
 
lust overlord said:
My mum,before she passed away, had a similar view to yours regarding doctors appointments and hospitals.

Trying to explain that the main issues were underfunding and the governments obsession with privatisation by stealth was a main cause,fell on deaf ears.

There is light at the end of the tunnel,in that more people will come to realise, post brexit and whatnot,that they've been had over, hopefully we may then see a change for the better.
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If the brexit catastrophe doesn't make people realise how incompetent/corrupt this shower are, there's little hope.
I'd move to a different European country if possible....
 
Grassland Blue said:
If the brexit catastrophe doesn't make people realise how incompetent/corrupt this shower are, there's little hope.
I'd move to a different European country if possible....
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Your first paragraph could be described as a brexit positive then.

Accountability of our politicians for their policies.

It'll take a while yet,but it may come to pass.
 
lust overlord said:
Your first paragraph could be described as a brexit positive then.

Accountability of our politicians for their policies.

It'll take a while yet,but it may come to pass.
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They have always been accountable, but I agree they have nothing to hide behind or blame anymore. For domestic politics and politicians, shovelling the blame for every unpopular decision on the EU was a useful tactic.
 
BobKowalski said:
They have always been accountable, but I agree they have nothing to hide behind or blame anymore. For domestic politics and politicians, shovelling the blame for every unpopular decision on the EU was a useful tactic.
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Ha! it still is a useful tactic.
Now it's the e.u being intransigent or being deliberately difficult to deal with.

Even that won't wash for much longer.
 
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