Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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paska said:
If that club wasn’t Chelsea in the state it was in, you’d be right. But it wasn’t a normal situation of walking into a top club with a balanced 24 man squad and a sane-ish person at the top

He walked into the most chaotic version of Chelsea Football Club that has ever existed. Run by a lunatic Yank who makes the Glazers look like, well, our very own Sheikh.

Nobody could manage a squad that size and with that many new faces all squabbling with each other. Tuchel was already struggling to handle Boehly FC before that influx happened.

If-and-when Potter gets to manage a sane top club, we’ll test your hypothesis. But that hypothesis simply hasn’t been tested yet, because of numerous extra variables working against him.
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It obviously Has been tested. That's like arguing Mark Hughes is every bit as good as Pep Guardiola, just hasn't been tested enough to show he is not.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Artetta was so close to getting the chop, and look how he's turned Arsenal into title favourites.

Potter just hasn't been given time to make his mark.
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The only counterpoint to that would be Arteta at his worst never fell as low as Potter at Chelsea. He was never, at any point, as bad Potter has been this season. He also won the FA Cup in his first 6 months beating City and Chelsea on the way, which I imagine gave him some leeway with the Arsenal board. I found it increasingly more and more difficult to defend Potter.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
Would any British person with zero knowledge of The NFL or MLB buy an American Football or Baseball team?

Why do Americans buy football clubs when they clearly have no knowledge of how to run one?
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Arrogance and “manifest destiny”
 
Coatigan said:
It obviously Has been tested. That's like arguing Mark Hughes is every bit as good as Pep Guardiola, just hasn't been tested enough to show he is not.
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Mark had the same owners as Pep in the end, and we had not done what Chelsea has done under Boehly. It’s not the same argument at all.

There’s no comparable situation.
 
paska said:
If they don’t win a single pot for ten years under Boehly, would he cut his losses and sell at a significant loss, or would he just keep digging and digging?

Highly hypothetical of course, just imagining the best case scenario…
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He spends money like he doesn't give a sh1t, always a warning sign but at the end of the day, Chelsea FC and their fans are the ones that will suffer.
 
RayCTID said:
Apparently Bayern still hold Naglesmann's contract and it is going to take some compensation so that is not going to happen straight away.
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If Nagelsmann is smart he does not go directly from one to the other club but overthinks the mistakes he has made at Bayern.
 
117 M34 said:
I disagree.
He did very well at swansea as well as abroad before joining Brighton.
The 600m players were not his players and was very unbalanced - not his fault.
Brighton have continued to do well since he left but would the current Brighton manager have been able to do well if he wasn't picking up potter's team?
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Some managers simply can't manage big players and their ego's, that was always going to be Potters make or break.

He had a crazy owner that did him no favours , 25m contract apart but in saying that, he looked a manager totally out of his depth.
 
Coatigan said:
What's laughable is his record.

He is a 'good' manager, for clubs like Swansea, and where Brighton were when he was there, with low expectations. He is not good enough for top level clubs. He didn't live up to the hype.

He has time on his side and will find a good club for his level, doubt any top club would now dare go near him though.
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You judge him as much as you want on less than one season with a seemingly bizarre transfer policy from what seems like a crap guy in charge.

I could use your standards and show you many a manager that doesn't fit your thinking but It won't get us anywhere.
 
hilts said:
You judge him as much as you want on less than one season with a seemingly bizarre transfer policy from what seems like a crap guy in charge.

I could use your standards and show you many a manager that doesn't fit your thinking but It won't get us anywhere.
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Bang on even a top level manager would struggle with the scatter brain transfer policy ........... money doesn’t alway buy success
 
paska said:
Mark had the same owners as Pep in the end, and we had not done what Chelsea has done under Boehly. It’s not the same argument at all.

There’s no comparable situation.
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I disagree on this one. For me Boehly's biggest mistake, among his many expensive ones, was hiring a manager out of his depth to deal with a quickly increased squad.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Spending is the easy bit isnt it. Been saying this for years
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The cost of players is only a tiny part of any recruitment strategy.

It's about getting the right type of player, with the right temperament who is capable of fitting in to a new environment, with a willingness to adapt to the training methods, the staff and be able to get on with their new team mates - all at the RIGHT PRICE. Some of those attributes are a bit of a gamble, but on the whole, City have been VERY good at getting it right. I don't think we've really overspent on anyone in recent years, except perhaps he who should not be named (currently not in the squad, and never likely to be again). Cancelo came at a good price, but appears to be lacking when it comes to temperament.

The Chav's on the other hand have been the epitome of 'splash the cash', which doesn't appear to be working out too well for them right now.
 
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