Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

jrb said:
Manchester City FC has been made aware that Liverpool FC’s coach sustained damage on its return journey following today’s game.
We understand an object was thrown towards the coach in a residential area.

Incidents of this kind are totally unacceptable, and we strongly condemn the actions of the individual(s) responsible.

We will fully support Greater Manchester Police’s investigation into this incident in any way we can.

Additionally, the Club is disappointed to have heard inappropriate chants from home fans during the game today.

We regret any offence these chants may have caused and will continue to work with supporter groups and officials from both clubs to eradicate hateful chanting from this fixture.
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In case nobody noticed. There is no apology anywhere in that.

They condemn such actions by individuals (who wouldn't). They regret any offence chants may have caused.
 
Coatigan said:
In case nobody noticed. There is no apology anywhere in that.

They condemn such actions by individuals (who wouldn't). They regret any offence chants may have caused.
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But they called the chants ‘inappropriate‘. What renders them to be inappropriate?

And why talk of the offence they may have caused? And the associated regret?

They’ve thrown us supporters under the…errr...bus with that part of the statement.
 
Ja Salford Blue said:
I threw a £25 TK Max voucher at Klopp!

And I also made a copy of the Sun’s free Alton towers voucher page into a paper aeroplane and threw it into the away end, just to see if they really do hate that newspaper, more than a free day out!

Does that count?
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U a bad mofo
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But they called the chants ‘inappropriate‘. What renders them to be inappropriate?

And why talk of the offence they may have caused? And the associated regret?

They’ve thrown us supporters under the…errr...bus with that part of the statement.
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Opinion I guess. Fair point btw.

Regretting offense caused, isn't really any form of taking any kind of responsibility. But calling them inappropriate, kind of is.
 
Jamshopbridge said:
Slightly modified from one I posted on another thread

"It's always our fault
It's always our fault
We can't say the V word
It's always our fault"
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It's always our fault
It's always our fault
We've beaten your system
Now F**k off and cry
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But they called the chants ‘inappropriate‘. What renders them to be inappropriate?

And why talk of the offence they may have caused? And the associated regret?

They’ve thrown us supporters under the…errr...bus with that part of the statement.
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The rules and guidance of the FA and/or PL render them to be inappropriate. There has been plenty of press coverage about it. The clubs have agreed to abide by such rules and guidance in order to join their competitions.
 
NJMCFC184 said:
Have we had a picture yet of this damaged coach?
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Nope. And we will never see any pictures. Someone lobbed a stone or half a brick. Any damage will be superficial. They would make themselves a laughing stock (as usual) if they did publish any. However, any damage to the coach is not their concern or objective. It is yet again, to draw attention to themselves and portray how hard done by they are. How they are persecuted and why everyone should feel sorry for them. In other words they are Vict..... oops! not allowed to say the 'V-Word' as it upsets them as it is referring to Hillsborough. My fucking arse it is! Everything always has to be about them. All of the time. I'm absolutely sick to fucking death of the lot of them.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
The rules and guidance of the FA and/or PL render them to be inappropriate. There has been plenty of press coverage about it. The clubs have agreed to abide by such rules and guidance in order to join their competitions.
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Which rule or section of guidance are you referring to?

I’m assuming there’s one that expressly prohibits the use of the word ‘victims’.
 
jayfx said:
I'm not assuming anything mate. Not refusing to believe it though either. I hope it is all just a lie and it wasn't a City fan being a complete knob. My point is, if it is a blue, they've done exactly what we have called them scouse rats for doing before. Either way, it's bad press for our club and fans.
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That's all you've done in multiple posts despite it being explained why you're (probably) wrong.

There were 2 little scrotes seen to throw an object each, only one of which hit. This was several hundred yards down Ashton New Road well after the match ended and the crowd dispersed. What team they support if they even follow football is immaterial. You seem eager to compare it to their organised stoning greeting of our bus at their gaff which is strange.



And for others who seem to have great difficulty reading, City haven't apologised for anything, let alone on behalf of the fans regarding the damage. Re. the chant(s), they have to address them due to PL/FA rules whether you agree or not.

I can't see why there being no pictures of a broken outer pane of glass makes any difference either way as I don't think Liverpool have made any statement? They made City aware of it I think someone has said and that's it. The chanting wasn't reported to the press either.

Neither club are responsible in this case of how the press report it. Save your anger for them.
 
Centurions said:
And for others who seem to have great difficulty reading, City haven't apologised for anything, let alone on behalf of the fans regarding the damage. Re. the chant(s), they have to address them due to PL/FA rules whether you agree or not.
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But what rule is this based on? This argument must predicated on the fact that the chant is objectively offensive. Who has determined it to be so?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But what rule is this based on? This argument must predicated on the fact that the chant is objectively offensive. Who has determined it to be so?
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For that you'd have to ask the club(s)/FA/PL. The club put the statement out, I don't particularly agree with it myself but the easiest option is to drop the chant and think up better. The rule has already been quoted I think so you'd have to look back.

You're being extremely picky on this I have to say.
 
PPT said:
Nope. And we will never see any pictures. Someone lobbed a stone or half a brick. Any damage will be superficial. They would make themselves a laughing stock (as usual) if they did publish any. However, any damage to the coach is not their concern or objective. It is yet again, to draw attention to themselves and portray how hard done by they are. How they are persecuted and why everyone should feel sorry for them. In other words they are Vict..... oops! not allowed to say the 'V-Word' as it upsets them as it is referring to Hillsborough. My fucking arse it is! Everything always has to be about them. All of the time. I'm absolutely sick to fucking death of the lot of them.
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Yep, a total shit stain of a club
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But what rule is this based on? This argument must predicated on the fact that the chant is objectively offensive. Who has determined it to be so?
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Liverpool FC, and the media, which then eventually leads to an acceptance of such.

Look, I agree with you. I have said so on here already, the chant isn't about Hillsborough. It is about Luis Suaraz. And those fucking tshirts with the whole Evra incident. And it is gereric and universal enough to be borrowed by any other club's fans, for any of the many situations Liverpool prove it to be true.

But it apparently happened to coincide with the week the Hillsborough case findings were made public, the headlines almost wrote themselves, and since then Liverpool have repeatedly claimed it as a Hillsborough related/associated chant, and the press, by reporting it, have to some extent legitimised the claim. I don't agree with it, but it seems the FA and the club might seem to.
 
NJMCFC184 said:
Have we had a picture yet of this damaged coach?
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klopp_angry.jpg
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
But they called the chants ‘inappropriate‘. What renders them to be inappropriate?

And why talk of the offence they may have caused? And the associated regret?

They’ve thrown us supporters under the…errr...bus with that part of the statement.
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Singing about tragedies. I know we aren't singing about Hillsborough, but we kind of are about Heysel. The point is now those kind of songs are viewed as wrong. Singing about tragedies is actually a bit sick.

One thing I noticed in the statement:

"Additionally, the Club is disappointed to have heard inappropriate chants from home fans during the game today.

We regret any offence these chants may have caused and will continue to work with supporter groups and officials from both clubs to eradicate hateful chanting from this fixture."

Is that the chants are described as inappropriate and may have caused offence. It also says that both clubs needs to eradicate hateful chanting.

This probably relates to Shipman songs. While at the moment it seems that tragedies at football grounds are not to be sung about, as @Dodge (I think) mentioned, singing about Shipman murdering hundreds isn't viewed the same way. Yet.

I reckon City are accepting singing about deaths is wrong, but want that working both ways in future.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Which rule or section of guidance are you referring to?

I’m assuming there’s one that expressly prohibits the use of the word ‘victims’.
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The 'guidance' bit is currently where you should be focusing on and they have released statements about it and welcomed measures to stamp it out. So although it is not explicitly noted in any rule, and it never will be, it is something they want to push under a banner such as 'respect' because they don't want it left to escalate. As such all clubs are bound to want to be recognised that they are working with the FA/PL.

As I said before, the authorities are motivated by not repeating mistakes around Hillsborough that we all agree (well, mostly) were disgusting. It's something none of us want to see happen again.
 
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