The Scottish Politics thread

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Thats where we are mate sadly. Because despite Brexit and everything that the Tories and Johnson have shovelled onto everyone, the dial has barely twitched. That was with Sturgeon in charge too. Mark Renton was correct.
Let’s wait and see. I agree it will be more difficult and to be fair, I always thought we would bottle it. Perhaps I feel that way to soften the blow when and if we do show ourselves to be feart timorous mice.
 
Let’s wait and see. I agree it will be more difficult and to be fair, I always thought we would bottle it. Perhaps I feel that way to soften the blow when and if we do show ourselves to be feart timorous mice.
well, approximately 50% of us are. We need another 10% on top.

Can't remember the exact figures but I think only 50k of the 70K voted in the leadership election. I was floored by that stat. Christ if SNP members cant be bothered what hope is there?
 
We now have the utter disaster of Brexit, we are out of the EU market, we have the reality of England continually voting Tory and the economic and social disaster that is. I just hope these realities will have moved the dial. It may not, and if it doesn’t, then we are nothing but a nation of take the knee, pathetic forelock tugging shitebags.
That’s the spirit.
 
How I voted in 2014 has changed and my wife is wavering. Both my children didn't vote but I suspect one at least would vote Yes

You won't be the only one(s), I know a fair few as well. Not what I was discussing, nor did I link the two though.
 
A bad day for Scotland coming immediately after Hamza's win last week.
Lets hear the charges before we find them all guilty.
Personally I think it’s a good day for Scotland given that the police have finally stopped dragging their feet with this investigation and made an arrest.

The failure to do so while Mrs Murrell was FM strongly suggests to me that political influence was at play, as I struggle to comprehend how it would take almost two years for an investigation such as this - with a clear and obvious public interest - to reach the current stage.
 
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Probably a mixture of 2 things, she tied herself up in knots over the trans prisoner row and then this.

Probably a mixture of 3 things.

The two you say, and then also getting to a dead end with the referendum/indy strategy, with time and pressure at the tail end of it. A new person buys themselves time by default.

But it is probably most likely this though, they would have known it was coming and tried to distance it from the party. Or were pushed to do so.
 
Not sure it makes any difference to Starmer, there seems to be very little shift towards Labour from the SNP in Scotland maybe a bit and a bit from the tories. Think it will take more than this to convince anyone of Scottish Labour.

Labour were already up by 10% on their 2019 GE performance and the only party in Scotland with a net favourable opinion. This is from a month ago before this news.

How it would impact an election for Holyrood I have no idea, but for Starmer it’s a big win.
 

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