Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

Ghandi's Flip Flops said:
There was a similar urban rumour knocking about years ago about why Newton Heath had its postcode changed from M10.
That and also people not being able to get car insurance with that postcode
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I was raised in Newton Heath in the 60s. Always remember it as Manchester 10

When did it change and what is it now? Averill Street.
 
levets said:
I was raised in Newton Heath in the 60s. Always remember it as Manchester 10

When did it change and what is it now? Averill Street.
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Haha, spent my early years early 70s on next street, Regent St.

Think it changed mid to late 80s and the addresses I still know down there are now M40
 
When Michael Shields was convicted of Attempted Murder by a Bulgarian court, Liverpool fans decided to wage a campaign to free him. They recruited politicians and church leaders, all of whom said he was innocent. They set about forcing an innocent man to admit to the attack, the confession was so false even Shields solicitor refused to rely on it. The campaign group even used banners that spanned the width of the Kop to protest his innocence, this act is actually against Premier League rules but for some reason, they weren't punished, so they did it again. Eventually they 'forced' Jack Straw' to issue a 'Queens Pardon' and he was freed. There is not one bit of evidence that shows Shields is/was innocent.
This campaign highlights, to me, what 'Always the Victims' is about. It is always someone else to blame, whether it is attempt murder, robbing your own of Champs League tickets, Paris, Heysel, fountains in Madrid, racist 't' shirts on players etc etc etc.
It started with Heysel where they blamed Chelsea fans amongst many but it has gone on every year since then.
 
I’m in O’Neills in Liverpool for food after some shopping. It’s kicked off big style. A woman accused two men of darker complexions of trying to take photos of her kids. She started throwing drinks around and they left. She then followed them outside and starting screaming blue hell at them including racist abuse. When staff ushered her back inside, she threw a table over. The whole party have now been ejected.

There’s live music on. Sport on the tv. Families in. People trying to enjoy themselves. Imagine a thick female Scouse accent roaring “you fucking little Turkish nonce. Fuck your mother and fuck off back home.”

There’s morons everywhere in Liverpool.
 
MCFC Wirral said:
I’m in O’Neills in Liverpool for food after some shopping. It’s kicked off big style. A woman accused two men of darker complexions of trying to take photos of her kids. She started throwing drinks around and they left. She then followed them outside and starting screaming blue hell at them including racist abuse. When staff ushered her back inside, she threw a table over. The whole party have now been ejected.

There’s live music on. Sport on the tv. Families in. People trying to enjoy themselves. Imagine a thick female Scouse accent roaring “you fucking little Turkish nonce. Fuck your mother and fuck off back home.”

There’s morons everywhere in Liverpool.
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Scrotes of all persuasions loving getting angry about supposed paedos, don’t they? It’s like a free pass to aggro for them.

As if they would bother taking photos of her kids for gratification. This simply doesn’t happen except in the minds of stupid people.
 
mancityvstoke said:
This was always a Utd v LFC thing until Utd went to shit and we became their rivals.

Until then we were just Shipmans victims to them.

Apparently Harold Shipman killed my Gran.

Or that's what they chanted right at me in 111 years ago.

Focus on what they've done not on us.
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We need to take the lobbying cunts on at their own game with the FA and lobby for Shipman to be listed as a tragedy hate crime.

"Liverpool FC is disappointed to hear chants referencing Surgery Tragedies at todays game".

Piece of piss this lobbying malarkey.
 
mancityvstoke said:
This was always a Utd v LFC thing until Utd went to shit and we became their rivals.

Until then we were just Shipmans victims to them.

Apparently Harold Shipman killed my Gran.

Or that's what they chanted right at me in 111 years ago.

Focus on what they've done not on us.
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There’s was a double decker bus full of em after the game Saturday on Alan Turing way all you hear was that !!!

Plus the usual 6 finger sign (didn’t realise Stoke was part of Liverpool)
 
domalino said:
The word victim is inherently linked to Hillsborough becuase the families spent decades using that word specifically in their campaign to overturn the accidental death verdict and prove that their loved ones were unlawfully killed victims of a disaster and not the perpetrators they were portrayed as by SYP and the media.


You and others might try and say that it came about in 2012 as a result of the Suarez racsim incident, but that doesn't really explain why the song wasn't heard and reported on until September 2012, more than a year after the Suarez incident but only a 3 days after the Hillsborough Independent Panel published it's report and the government reopened the inquiry.

At the end of the day, we will probably never know the original intention of the person who came up with the song, but that the FA thinks it's about Hillsborough, the press think it's about Hillsborough, Liverpool fans think it's about Hillsborough and you cant make that go away by insisting it's not, and you can't claim ignorance to the fact that some people think it's related to Hillsborough. So as long as it gets sung, the club will have to issue statements, and the papers will report on it.

So even if it's true that a group managed to coopt the song to mean something it wasn't intended to mean - what is the aim of singing it now?

Why complain about the club and media response when you know full well it's going to happen when the song gets sung?
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It seems that you are suggesting they have the copyright on the word victim to be used solely for Hillsborough. The word victim is from the Latin Victima first used in Ancient Rome. It was used in a Biblical sense to describe one who endured torture and or death for their beliefs. Therefore the most significant early victim was Jesus Christ. In the late 16th century the word became used more often in legal terminology and describe those who had a medical condition. The word is also used in commonly used phrases such as a victim of their own success.

Sorry, but saying victim is inherently linked to Hillsborough is fucking bollocks. Go and gaslight someone else.
 
Blue Mist said:
When Michael Shields was convicted of Attempted Murder by a Bulgarian court, Liverpool fans decided to wage a campaign to free him. They recruited politicians and church leaders, all of whom said he was innocent. They set about forcing an innocent man to admit to the attack, the confession was so false even Shields solicitor refused to rely on it. The campaign group even used banners that spanned the width of the Kop to protest his innocence, this act is actually against Premier League rules but for some reason, they weren't punished, so they did it again. Eventually they 'forced' Jack Straw' to issue a 'Queens Pardon' and he was freed. There is not one bit of evidence that shows Shields is/was innocent.
This campaign highlights, to me, what 'Always the Victims' is about. It is always someone else to blame, whether it is attempt murder, robbing your own of Champs League tickets, Paris, Heysel, fountains in Madrid, racist 't' shirts on players etc etc etc.
It started with Heysel where they blamed Chelsea fans amongst many but it has gone on every year since then.
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I read that something like 9 people, English and foreign, identified shields in an identity parade.

At the very least he was one of a small number who smashed someone’s head in during an attack. Yet they all mobilised in support of another victim.
 
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