Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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ASHCFC said:
Jeez, relax mate.

I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.

There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.

I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?

Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest
ASHCFC said:
Jeez, relax mate.

I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.

There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.

I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?

Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest.
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Totally wrong. CAS went out of their way to state that their verdict owed nothing to time barring. For example, the first timed barred item actually took place before ffp was in place. CAS said “There is NO EVIDENCE THAT THE ALLEGED PAYMENTS CONTINUED AFTER THE INTRODUCTION OF FFP.”
If you are going to keep posting about this you really should read the judgement otherwise you are just repeating the lies of the press
 
Spent half a billion dollars on players, yet may finish behind Bournemouth on the table. Yes, the Bournemouth that lost 9-0 at Anfield earlier in the season.
 
ASHCFC said:
I am only commenting because I keep getting called out!

I post here on the Chelsea page about Chelsea stuff. It seems that if make even the tiniest reference to City that is anything less than deferential it's an invitation for some here to pile in.

Jeez.

And where have I said I have no knowledge? I said I'm not an expert.
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Not about being deferential, but if you post on a City forum, you would do well to be accurate and not repeat nonsense you have read about (in the click bait papers) “a bit”.
 
halfcenturyup said:
You are normally a fair poster but you aren't going to get anywhere on a City forum trying to tell us the fact we have been charged by UEFA and the PL is any indication at all of wrong-doing. That isn't how any of this works, and you are smart enough to know it.

All because of a stupid discussion over the word perfect.

My advice, take it or leave it, would be that the topic of PL charges should be left well alone on here. Feelings on the subject are still pretty raw.
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I agree, and appreciate the voice of reason.

I certainly did not wish to be discussing at such length what is obviously a touchy subject for many here.

Thank you sir.
 
KS55 said:
Not about being deferential, but if you post on a City forum, you would do well to be accurate and not repeat nonsense you have read about (in the click bait papers) “a bit”.
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Fair shout.
 
KS55 said:
Totally wrong. CAS went out of their way to state that their verdict owed nothing to time barring. For example, the first timed barred item actually took place before ffp was in place. CAS said “There is NO EVIDENCE THAT THE ALLEGED PAYMENTS CONTINUED AFTER THE INTRODUCTION OF FFP.”
If you are going to keep posting about this you really should read the judgement otherwise you are just repeating the lies of the press
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Understood.
 
ASHCFC said:
Where have I laughed at City being perfectly run?? Show me please. Aside from anything else its a ridiculous notion to laugh at 'perfection'.

And I haven't suggested you've done something wrong financially. That was UEFA and is the FA who suggest that. Sorry if that offends you but that's the reality.

Your use of the word 'perfectly' is interesting.

I have no problem acknowledging City's cohesive and successful business model, and their on-pitch dominance at this moment. Or for that matter, that my team is a joke right now in comparison.

I just find it a little difficult to have to read claims of perfection when anyone who lives in the real world knows that's just not the case.
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Well, for one thing, it was you who said laughingly that the original comment was the "funniest" thing you'd read on here. Now, you're happy to accept that we are run "excellently", whereas I used the word 'perfect.' I think you were just being pedantic as a defence mechanism.

Any way, fuck all that - just turn a bloody corner tonight, will yer?!
 
ASHCFC said:
Haha.

Yeah, Google can be a great reference tool, depending on where you land.

What's your take on this piece:

www.independent.co.uk

Man City and the old questions that could lead to Champions League ban

The Premier League investigation into City’s alleged financial breaches has spotlighted fresh questions arising from Uefa’s previous case against the club
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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My take on that piece would be to refute that well known liar line by line, but I can’t be bothered. But here is a couple of examples to be going on with:
1. City did not choose 2 members of the panel. UEFA chose one and City chose one. Both sides agreed with City’s suggestion that the Chairman should be the guy who sat on and was familiar with the interim case.
2. Citing the Investigatory Chamber as a source is a joke. In the interim case CAS said: City cannot hope to get a fair hearing while M. Leterme is chairing the panel.
3. Emails are worthless as evidence of any wrong doing, as they are merely evidence of a conversation. They must be backed by actual evidence of wrong doing, of which there was none. UEFA were told this in advance but persisted.
The investigatory chamber never actually saw any emails, merely Spiegel’s doctored versions.
The second set referred to have already been shown to be tampered with.
You clearly don’t know jackshit about the case. If there was no collusion by clubs, explain this: Liverpool, the Rags and Arsenal held a series of cosy meetings at which they referred to Soriano as “The terrorist.” The UEFA calculation of our budget were prepared by, surprise, surprise, a director of mUFC.
 
the blue panther said:
Well, for one thing, it was you who said that laughingly that the original comment was the "funniest" thing you'd read on here. Now, you're happy to accept that we are run "excellently", whereas I used the word 'perfect.' I think you were just being pedantic as a defence mechanism.

Any way, fuck all that - just turn a bloody corner tonight, will yer?!
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Haha. Fair shout bro.

To be fair, the idea that Manchester City (or indeed any other super rich club) should be held up as a model for poorer clubs was pretty funny to me!

However, the lad who posted that soundbite has since clarified what he meant, and I get what he's saying.

For the record, I've said many times here that I believe Manchester City are superbly run, so it's not a sudden thing for me to state.

Anyway, I respect your post and thank you for the sentiment of it.

If by some miracle we prevent the Gooners from taking all 3 tonight, I expect virtual beers here later!
 
ASHCFC said:
Haha. Fair shout bro.

To be fair, the idea that Manchester City (or indeed any other super rich club) should be held up as a model for poorer clubs was pretty funny to me!

However, the lad who posted that soundbite has since clarified what he meant, and I get what he's saying.

For the record, I've said many times here that I believe Manchester City are superbly run, so it's not a sudden thing for me to state.

Anyway, I respect your post and thank you for the sentiment of it.

If by some miracle we prevent the Gooners from taking all 3 tonight, I expect virtual beers here later!
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I’ll have your babies if you beat them; Arse that is, not babies.
 
KS55 said:
My take on that piece would be to refute that well known liar line by line, but I can’t be bothered. But here is a couple of examples to be going on with:
1. City did not choose 2 members of the panel. UEFA chose one and City chose one. Both sides agreed with City’s suggestion that the Chairman should be the guy who sat on and was familiar with the interim case.
2. Citing the Investigatory Chamber as a source is a joke. In the interim case CAS said: City cannot hope to get a fair hearing while M. Leterme is chairing the panel.
3. Emails are worthless as evidence of any wrong doing, as they are merely evidence of a conversation. They must be backed by actual evidence of wrong doing, of which there was none. UEFA were told this in advance but persisted.
The investigatory chamber never actually saw any emails, merely Spiegel’s doctored versions.
The second set referred to have already been shown to be tampered with.
You clearly don’t know jackshit about the case. If there was no collusion by clubs, explain this: Liverpool, the Rags and Arsenal held a series of cosy meetings at which they referred to Soriano as “The terrorist.” The UEFA calculation of our budget were prepared by, surprise, surprise, a director of mUFC.
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That's very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me.

Does the journalist who wrote the piece have form when it comes to spinning 'facts'?
 
halfcenturyup said:
I heard Boehly was doing that ..... Something about Hail Mary's and end zones?
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We are actually launching an appeal to UEFA at the moment.

Apparently Boehly shouted 'TIME OUT!!' just before Real Madrid scored their first goal at the Bridge, but the referee completely ignored the legitimate call. Fucking cheats.
 
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