Media Discussion - 2023/24

[cheekybids]

I know people find it boring but I’ll continue to pull people up when they repeat this lie.

Mark Sampson wasn’t accused of being racist because he wasn’t picking anyone. He was accused and found guilty by an independent barrister of making racist comments to two players.

‘She’ didn’t get the England manager to be finished. He was finished because it came to light he’d been shagging one of his young players in a previous job at Bristol Academy.

I just googled what was said…..

Nigeria-born Aluko had complained when Sampson told her to make sure her Nigerian relatives did not bring the ebola virus to a friendly against Germany at Wembley.

He had also asked mixed-race Londoner Spence how many times she had been arrested during a team meeting.

Although Sampson denied the allegations, Newton reviewed new evidence and concluded the remarks had been made and were racially discriminatory.

 

[Brooklands Blue]

Maybe without Eni having the £multi-billion BBC communications empire behind here. Sampson wouldn’t have been fired. Maybe he deserved the boot.

There was a smear campaign with the BBC adding extra titbits each day. It was a death of a thousand cuts approach.

If memory serves me correctly it wasn't long before she was part of the BBC pundits team shortly after the Sampson episode. She reminds me of the character Tonga from the Sherlock Holmes episode Sign of four!

 

[Stephen230]

Maybe without Eni having the £multi-billion BBC communications empire behind here. Sampson wouldn’t have been fired. Maybe he deserved the boot.

There was a smear campaign with the BBC adding extra titbits each day. It was a death of a thousand cuts approach.

Maybe. And maybe if he hadn’t been shagging an 18 year old girl he was in a position of authority over, he wouldn’t have been fired either. Who knows? I’m here to point out outright lies not to defend her.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Maybe. And maybe if he hadn’t been shagging an 18 year old girl he was in a position of authority over, he wouldn’t have been fired either. Who knows? I’m here to point out outright lies not to defend her.

Yes we don’t but do you think this Bristol stuff would have come out if it wasn’t for the intense media speculation supporting Eni Aluko’s case.

I haven’t read all the thread so I don’t know what the lies are you are going on about. It was probably Sampson’s time to go and he had enough on his charge sheet. That said, anyone whose ever been in a tribunal or similar legal set up would have loved the incredible media support that Aluko got.

 

[Scaley]

Wait til she sees them…

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Always wanted to see a bit more of the Hi-Hats in the film.

 

[Mr Fraser]

Yes we don’t but do you think this Bristol stuff would have come out if it wasn’t for the intense media speculation supporting Eni Aluko’s case.

I haven’t read all the thread so I don’t know what the lies are you are going on about. It was probably Sampson’s time to go and he had enough on his charge sheet. That said, anyone whose ever been in a tribunal or similar legal set up would have loved the incredible media support that Aluko got.

Mark Sampson: FA sorry over race remarks to Eniola Aluko & Drew Spence

The FA apologises to two players for racially discriminatory remarks made by sacked England's women's boss Mark Sampson.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ithryn Luin]

I know people find it boring but I’ll continue to pull people up when they repeat this lie.

Mark Sampson wasn’t accused of being racist because he wasn’t picking anyone. He was accused and found guilty by an independent barrister of making racist comments to two players.

That is not right though is it? It is your spin on certain findings.

The FA first oversaw two investigations, the second of them an independent investigation by a independent barrister, Katharine Newton, both which cleared Sampson.

Then a third was brought at insistence of the "frothing at the mouth" outraged race baiters and usual suspects.

The same Katherine Newton then concluded in this third investigation..... "on a balance of probabilities" that Mark Sampson made comments that were "discriminatory on the grounds of race".

So the Witch Hunters finally had the result they wanted and the first two investigations were swept under the carpet and forgotten.

The FA then agreed to pay a "significant " financial settlement to Sampson in January 2019, on the week his claim for unfair dismissal was due to be heard in court. No doubt because their third "racism" investigation and the accusation of so called "inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour" at Bristol in 2013 would have completely unravelled in a proper court of law.

 

[Blue Mist]

That is not right though is it? It is your spin on certain findings.

The FA first oversaw two investigations, the second of them an independent investigation by a independent barrister, Katharine Newton, both which cleared Sampson.

Then a third was brought at the "frothing at the mouth" outraged race baiters and usual suspects.

The same Katherine Newton then concluded in this third investigation..... "on a balance of probabilities" that Mark Sampson made comments that were "discriminatory on the grounds of race".

So the Witch Hunters finally had the result they wanted and the first two investigations were swept under the carpet and forgotten.

The FA then agreed to pay a "significant " financial settlement to Sampson in January 2019, on the week his claim for unfair dismissal was due to be heard in court. No doubt because their third "racism" investigation and the accusation of so called "inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour" at Bristol in 2013 would have completely unravelled in a proper court of law.

I hope as you finished typing that you did a mic drop. It deserves one.

It's a good job the third one found him guilty because otherwise the 4th one would have.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Mark Sampson: FA sorry over race remarks to Eniola Aluko & Drew Spence

The FA apologises to two players for racially discriminatory remarks made by sacked England's women's boss Mark Sampson.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thanks for the info. We know all that mate. Sampson wasn’t a nice character but the media campaign against him appeared very orchestrated:

Do you think these legal panels are immune from a media tidal wave? I am not sure either way and I don’t think anyone else can be. Other than to say it’s a bit daft for somebody on here to be rushing round calling people liars.

Somebody thought it was a good idea to drag up the Bristol stuff into the media. Sampson clearly wasn’t professional and if he was racist he deserved to go. I’m not sure why earlier legal panel decisions favouring Sampson were overturned during the media storm.

I’m not sure why Aluko was introduced into this thread but she’s said plenty of negative things about City. Is it because she’s been making allegedly racist comments on social media to deflect from people laughing at her input into the Declan Rice affair

 

[Stephen230]

Yes we don’t but do you think this Bristol stuff would have come out if it wasn’t for the intense media speculation supporting Eni Aluko’s case.

I haven’t read all the thread so I don’t know what the lies are you are going on about. It was probably Sampson’s time to go and he had enough on his charge sheet. That said, anyone whose ever been in a tribunal or similar legal set up would have loved the incredible media support that Aluko got.

The lies are that without fail, every single time Aluko says something that annoys people, we have multiple posters on here trotting out the tale about the time she made some spurious claim of racism that got the England manager the sack.

We can speculate whether the Bristol story would likely have ever come to light without the racism stuff putting him in the spotlight. But I don’t see there’s too much to be gained by repeatedly going over that every time.

 

[Elbow beards]

Football really is a mugs game...

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That's ace can you actually buy them?

 

[cheekybids]

Always wanted to see a bit more of the Hi-Hats in the film.

The films a classic, every boy should be made to watch it by his dad.

“Can you dig it”

 

[cheekybids]

The lies are that without fail, every single time Aluko says something that annoys people, we have multiple posters on here trotting out the tale about the time she made some spurious claim of racism that got the England manager the sack.

We can speculate whether the Bristol story would likely have ever come to light without the racism stuff putting him in the spotlight. But I don’t see there’s too much to be gained by repeatedly going over that every time.

I think you’ll find that’s he narrative. It’s like if you ask if City only got off at CAS due to time barring.

Facts are forgotten far quicker than the narrative.

 

[Bigga]

She got the England manager to be finished. He wasn't picking her so must be a racist. Funnily enough none of the next managers selected her either

So... it's okay to favour and shag certain players then??!

Dude...

 

[Bigga]

Yes we don’t but do you think this Bristol stuff would have come out if it wasn’t for the intense media speculation supporting Eni Aluko’s case.

I haven’t read all the thread so I don’t know what the lies are you are going on about. It was probably Sampson’s time to go and he had enough on his charge sheet. That said, anyone whose ever been in a tribunal or similar legal set up would have loved the incredible media support that Aluko got.

This is incredible that you're shifting the focus.

You're not bothered that he was in a position of influence and shagging a player under his coaching, you're bothered how that came to light!!

That's wild.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

This is incredible that you're shifting the focus.

You're not bothered that he was in a position of influence and shagging a player under his coaching, you're bothered how that came to light!!

That's wild.

Not your boring shite ffs. I’ve said they probably had enough on the charge sheet to sack Sampson anyway. This is the “Media Discussion” thread so I’m well within my rights to highlight how orchestrated the media campaign against Sampson appeared.

 

[Bigga]

Not your boring shite ffs. I’ve said they probably had enough on the charge sheet to sack Sampson anyway. This is the “Media Discussion” thread so I’m well within my rights to highlight how orchestrated the media campaign against Sampson appeared.

When you're caught out being a numpty and don't address it, it's "boring", but you're good to defend a 'groomer'.

Cool. At least I know where you're at.

 

[Stephen230]

I think you’ll find that’s he narrative. It’s like if you ask if City only got off at CAS due to time barring.

Facts are forgotten far quicker than the narrative.

Same as everyone still thinks poor old Len Fairclough got done for noncing.

 

[astevec]

The way the media operate is easy to see.

Check out the following link;

Gish Gallop: When People Try to Win Debates by Using Overwhelming Nonsense – Effectiviology

effectiviology.com

After reading the intro, go to the 4th section, last 2 paragraphs, and read 'til the end.

Familiar?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

When you're caught out being a numpty and don't address it, it's "boring", but you're good to defend a 'groomer'.

Cool. At least I know where you're at.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel lol