Jeremy Doku

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JewelZee said:
How is Doku a 20 mil player when we got 17.3 for Borges and 15 for Charles? Being realistic in today's market he's fetching 40 mil. Whether we decide he's for us is a different matter, but if we do decide to move for him 20 mil won't get us a return phone call...just sayin'...
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i meant his stats and the league he plays in value him at 20m in my eyes, i dont think he has achieved much as it been in Belgium and France, not that we would get him for that as the world has gone mental (see Lucas thread for some more crazy amounts being banded about)

Agree that the fee that we are getting for our youth players would indicate more value for him but I don't rate him any higher than them

he is quick and can beat a man, has terrible delivery when coming to cross the final ball and seems to have spent alot of time injured. Add to the fact it isn't a strong league and most of his goals seem to come against teams towards the bottom of the table.

I'm coming around to the Paqueta deal after looking at him a bit more, maybe he didn't catch my eye in the games i saw but he seems to have something about him

Doku on the other hand seems bang average, doesn't seem to fit the profile of what Pep looks for in his wide players theses days (might be another change who knows with Pep) and his fee seems high for a player that is no way certain to improve us and doesn't look anything better than the lads we have
 
SebastianBlue said:
That is also a worry, to be sure.
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He had a nightmare 21-22 season in terms of injuries. Much healthier this past season, but still not ideal. It's not like he's older or has had some type of catastrophic injury which would render him damaged goods. He's an athletic specimen who maybe could stand to prosper playing in a rotational set up like ours and work with our physio staff...
 
This lad is the best dribbler in Europe, I don't get how anyone can be opposed to signing someone that brings something entirely different to our forward line. There's no turning around and passing backwards here, he'll have to be doubled up on and will still pull sit back defences all over the shop. Imagine questioning Kevs vision
 
glyntowen said:
i meant his stats and the league he plays in value him at 20m in my eyes, i dont think he has achieved much as it been in Belgium and France, not that we would get him for that as the world has gone mental (see Lucas thread for some more crazy amounts being banded about)

Agree that the fee that we are getting for our youth players would indicate more value for him but I don't rate him any higher than them

he is quick and can beat a man, has terrible delivery when coming to cross the final ball and seems to have spent alot of time injured. Add to the fact it isn't a strong league and most of his goals seem to come against teams towards the bottom of the table.

I'm coming around to the Paqueta deal after looking at him a bit more, maybe he didn't catch my eye in the games i saw but he seems to have something about him

Doku on the other hand seems bang average, doesn't seem to fit the profile of what Pep looks for in his wide players theses days (might be another change who knows with Pep) and his fee seems high for a player that is no way certain to improve us and doesn't look anything better than the lads we have
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All fair, but I think you're selling him a bit short. I watched him terrify teams at the Euros. With all due respect to Palmer, Bobb, and McAtee none of them have demonstrated that type of prowess at a top level, yet. There's plenty of time and opportunity for them to prove themselves and keep developing outside of stepping into a European champion at this moment. Personally, with Rico already here I'm giving that chance to one of Palmer or McAtee for now. That's just the reality of where we are as a club and I'm willing to bet that that's how it plays out. We shall see...
 
01cravend said:
This lad is the best dribbler in Europe, I don't get how anyone can be opposed to signing someone that brings something entirely different to our forward line. There's no turning around and passing backwards here, he'll have to be doubled up on and will still pull sit back defences all over the shop. Imagine questioning Kevs vision
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because we have guys that can dribble but don't seem to be allowed to, the game plan is to not lose the ball hence the move away from traditional wingers, not like we will just change the style for this kid
 
glyntowen said:
because we have guys that can dribble but don't seem to be allowed to, the game plan is to not lose the ball hence the move away from traditional wingers, not like we will just change the style for this kid
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Based on those graphics a few pages previous, he loses the ball only at a slightly higher rate than Phil who IIRC has one of the best turnover rates not just on City but in the league. His passing accuracy is on par with Mahrez and Phil as well.
 
TrentGrisham said:
Based on those graphics a few pages previous, he loses the ball only at a slightly higher rate than Phil who IIRC has one of the best turnover rates not just on City but in the league. His passing accuracy is on par with Mahrez and Phil as well.
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BUT BUT, the stats don't count cos it's from the French farmer's league... \0/

Based on those claims, it's a wonder we've ever looked at players outside the English Premier League.

As you say, the kid's stats are there for all to see. At £35m, I'm more than happy for us to take a punt.
 
TrentGrisham said:
Based on those graphics a few pages previous, he loses the ball only at a slightly higher rate than Phil who IIRC has one of the best turnover rates not just on City but in the league. His passing accuracy is on par with Mahrez and Phil as well.
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but in a much worse league, don't think you can compare france to the prem but stats are stats
 
glyntowen said:
because we have guys that can dribble but don't seem to be allowed to, the game plan is to not lose the ball hence the move away from traditional wingers, not like we will just change the style for this kid
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You can't fully correlate Grealish's role to us moving away from traditional wingers.
We wouldn't sign this lad and put the shackles on him, that'd entirely defeat the purpose of his signing.
And yeah Jack, Phil and Bernie can take a man on but they aren't close to this lad in consistency or output. Saka most dribbles of any winger in this league, Doku completed more despite playing 2000 minutes less.
 
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01cravend said:
You can't fully correlate Grealish's role to us moving away from traditional wingers.
We wouldn't sign this lad and put the shackles on him, that'd entirely defeat the purpose of his signing.
And yeah Jack, Phil and Bernie can take a man on but they aren't close to this lad in consistentcy or output. Saka most dribbles of any winger in this league, Doku completed more despite playing 2000 less minutes.
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i've wanted pace in the side for ages, probably since Sane left so he fills that requirement
Guess we will have to see if we are serious about him and what happens before the window closes
 
glyntowen said:
i've wanted pace in the side for ages, probably since Sane left so he fills that requirement
Guess we will have to see if we are serious about him and what happens before the window closes
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Left foot, right foot, left wing, right wing, dribbles and shoots with either foot, Strong and seems tackle resistant. Looks impressive on selective Youtube clips.
 
Feels like a player Napoli or Dortmund would sign this window and then sell for a massive fee next summer. The stats back up that he’s a quality young player , put him in an attacking team he’d look very good.
 
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