Went to see gazza at a sportsmans dinner. He was was 5/10 but one thing he said that made me chuckle was the myth that if hed gone united fergie wouldve kept him on the straight n narrow.On a side note.
I read today that Gazza wouldn’t have gone off the rails like he did if he had joined Utd.
Because he would have been chaperoned by Bryan Robson. Lol
I guess because their main witness , ie his girlfriend would refuse to state what happened.Well this is where I’m confused.
If the CPS thought there was enough evidence to compile a case, then drop it, Why?
According to the legal experts on another thread the preference of the victim to prosecute or not is irrelevant. It’s the responsibility of the CPS?
I think the fact it didn’t go to trial is actually worse for him. No not guilty at the end of it. He has never been cleared of anything. He will be brought back because he is worth £50m to them and they ain’t letting that go. If it was an U21 nobody, he would have been gone already.I guess because their main witness , ie his girlfriend would refuse to state what happened.
You say the CPS had no option, they did. Sadly they are afraid of public opinion and bad publicity.His girlfriend dropped the charges, so the CPS had no option but to drop the charges. It helps to have the charges dropped when your a multi millionaire able to bribe people.
He's a scum bag. Astonishing utd are even considering bringing him back. Good for Riley and her public stand shaming them.
You are basically saying we should use the law exclusively for our moral compassWell that is your viewpoint I have to accept that.
I may have said what you accuse, but once other people educated me I retracted that.
All I was trying to say earlier tonight and perhaps I didn't do it very well, was to compare this situation to those of other disgraceful footballers from the past.
When Gazza was being Gazza, when George Best was being George Best, did they have people with mobile phones recording everything they said and did - which is what has done for this guy in the eyes and ears of most people, even though it never went to court and at the end of the day in this country we operate under the principle of innocent until proven guilty. He has not been, in a court of law.
Like I said, I am not sticking up for him, I am just highlighting how times have changed. Plus this is what I think is going to be the argument United will use to avoid dumping a very valuable player.
Because his ‘defence’ was that they were just role-playing and they only have the audio to go off it would realistically be very difficult to secure a conviction without the gf supporting the prosecution.Well this is where I’m confused.
If the CPS thought there was enough evidence to compile a case, then drop it, Why?
According to the legal experts on another thread the preference of the victim to prosecute or not is irrelevant. It’s the responsibility of the CPS?
Fair enough, I stand corrected. They clearly should charge the odious little toe rag.You say the CPS had no option, they did. Sadly they are afraid of public opinion and bad publicity.
An 'actress' smashed a lampshade over her boyfriends head. (Forget her name) she was charged but he then withdrew the allegation. The CPS continued the prosecution, as they are allowed to do by law to protect victims of domestic violence. Sadly she committed suicide before a trial.
The CPS were completely correct to continue but were hounded by the media and the public. They are not going to do that again in a hurry, sadly that means victims will continue to get beaten up and raped.
Riley has put more focus and pressure on them to make the right decision. I would be flabbergasted if he remained at the club now, which let's be honest just comes out of this whole sorry saga looking more and more small time. The amount of stick he would get at games would be unprecedented if he stays.
It's been handled very badly. The best option was to just tell him to leave and ask for a very small fee. Make him go abroad. Do it as quiet as possible.Riley has put more focus and pressure on them to make the right decision. I would be flabbergasted if he remained at the club now, which let's be honest just comes out of this whole sorry saga looking more and more small time. The amount of stick he would get at games would be unprecedented if he stays.
It's easily done. He might sue. Rags could settle or go to court. Worst case they have to pay up the full contract. Its not that big a number it the context of football money.There's no way he will play for utd. They will have to terminate his contract.
But shouldn't that be easy? I mean I guess employment law would kick in, but hasn't he screwed up hence it should be easy to just terminate his contract with no compensation?
Presumably that would render a huge number of child abuse cases impossible, and yet they still get prosecuted.I guess because their main witness , ie his girlfriend would refuse to state what happened.
Of course. sexual assault against women isn't a crime in Saudi Arabia. Its the national sportCan’t understand all this to avoid any outrage would it not be in the club’s interests and the players to move him on,surely one of the Saudi clubs would snap him up,where as possibly in Europe he could possibly be under the microscope still ..
I dissagree, she is a high profile female celebrity fan who has very publicly and rightly called them out. Her position and statement is headline news. You would be very hard pressed to find anyone outside of their club who dissagrees with her. The rag fans at our work want him gone , I bet the majority think the same. I don't go on red cafe but would be surprised if he has any support whatsoever.The way they keep putting the mood music out there saying the manager, players and sponsors are happy for him to come back, it’s only going one way where he will return. I don’t think Rachael Riley’s admirable stance will make an overall impression on the out come. It’s poorly judged by United where they’ve looked at the prospect of losing money and an asset over the morale principle.
You could the argue in that scenario the gf should be charged with perverting the course of justice, but again the cps would say that putting a heavily pregnant young woman in trial for trading her self worth for 18 years of child support is not in the public’s interests.
Tbh I dont know enough about this to really comment with any surety . Others on the thread are more informed.Presumably that would render a huge number of child abuse cases impossible, and yet they still get prosecuted.