Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Absolutely correct mate. Unrelated, but one of my favourite memories from an international tournament is the other year when the English “firms” got utterly, completely, and absolutely smashed to smithereens by a smaller number of proper ‘hooligans’, the Russians.
Theses gobby, cowardly, shit-house wankers got complete fucked up and slapped all the way back to “Ingerland”.

Absolutely brilliant and richly deserved.

They’ve barely made a peep ever since. I’ve never seen a single film of a “hooligan” having a fair one on one straightener. Because they’re all, to a man, exclusively cowards.

What a stupid fucking post. For a start, pretty much all the main English lads weren't allowed to travel, and the Russians were sponsored by Putin, a lot were military. One coach full was turned away from France, and there was a diplomatic incident because a member of the Russian government was on it, with the firm. If you get turned on by scarfers in small groups getting a good kicking because of their nationality then good for you.

 

[Kippax77]

Absolutely correct mate. Unrelated, but one of my favourite memories from an international tournament is the other year when the English “firms” got utterly, completely, and absolutely smashed to smithereens by a smaller number of proper ‘hooligans’, the Russians.
Theses gobby, cowardly, shit-house wankers got complete fucked up and slapped all the way back to “Ingerland”.

Absolutely brilliant and richly deserved.

They’ve barely made a peep ever since. I’ve never seen a single film of a “hooligan” having a fair one on one straightener. Because they’re all, to a man, exclusively cowards.

Putin had all their hooligans training in woods against each other for months before that tournament and boy did it show.
They smashed everyone.
Stupid bottle throwing England fans can surely vouch for this as they got mothered

 

[Stephen230]

It was rumoured that Putin had sent special forces over to give English fans a taste of what would happen in Russia if they stepped out of line. I was worried sick as my Blackpool supporting nephew was out there after Marseiile they gave England fans a wide berth and chummed up with some Northern Ireland fans. Whatever the truth of what happened in Marseille, it certainly worked as the Russian world cup was totally trouble free.

I’m not sure “it worked” Was never going to much trouble from England fans over there. As there wasn’t in Japan, South Korea, South Africa or Qatar.

Trouble on any scale is pretty much restricted to easily accessible Western European countries.

 

[A57 the snake]

A lot of places were tricky away with City back in the day. Then again Maine road was hardly very welcoming in the 70's early 80's. Leeds and many other clubs fans used to get terrorised. Very naughty times.

Was indeed I remember hearing three Newcastle lads at a night game at main road completely on there toes one saying it’s probably the one of the worse places for a night game the one saying he hates this place.

 

[StevieAsk]

Absolutely correct mate. Unrelated, but one of my favourite memories from an international tournament is the other year when the English “firms” got utterly, completely, and absolutely smashed to smithereens by a smaller number of proper ‘hooligans’, the Russians.
Theses gobby, cowardly, shit-house wankers got complete fucked up and slapped all the way back to “Ingerland”.

Absolutely brilliant and richly deserved.

They’ve barely made a peep ever since. I’ve never seen a single film of a “hooligan” having a fair one on one straightener. Because they’re all, to a man, exclusively cowards.

What a pile of shite. England away now and in 2016 is nothing like England away in 1984. There aren’t any firms and no one is looking for trouble.
Yes, you get the odd gobshite who gets excited being away from his parents for a few days but that’s about it.
Christ knows what the Russian lads thought they were doing running around leathering anyone they could see. Complete bunch of pricks living in the past.
There’s nothing impressive about twatting fans who just want to have a few beers and watch their team.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

What a pile of shite. England away now and in 2016 is nothing like England away in 1984. There aren’t any firms and no one is looking for trouble.
Yes, you get the odd gobshite who gets excited being away from his parents for a few days but that’s about it.
Christ knows what the Russian lads thought they were doing running around leathering anyone they could see. Complete bunch of pricks living in the past.
There’s nothing impressive about twatting fans who just want to have a few beers and watch their team.

They were under orders to leather the English mate, be they middle aged or old, that's how the short arsed nonce Putin works. It's akin to England sending over a hundred para's and getting them to hammer middle aged blokes out for a few beers, for national pride. The bloke you responded to is an idiot.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Ditto,same here.
My best mate died in 2016 and he unlike me,was slightly interested in the England national team.

I once asked him how much ,and he caved in and said " compared to City it means nothing " and he then added
" there's only one team for me and they play in blue and white "

I believe the line is ...more upset if the reserves lost than England losing.

 

[blue44]

I believe the line is ...more upset if the reserves lost than England losing.

Not what Gaz used to say

 

[paulchapo]

Putin had all their hooligans training in woods against each other for months before that tournament and boy did it show.
They smashed everyone.
Stupid bottle throwing England fans can surely vouch for this as they got mothered

I'll point something out to both yourself and @Kazzydeyna . For a large number of years now there has been no known hooligans travelling with England. They are not allowed as they have banning orders and have to surrender their passports when England are playing away. The majority of England fans following England abroad are just normal fans, shirters. Now a few young lads not convicted of a football related offence may make the trip, get pissed and play up, as young lads do everywhere. That happens on holidays too. In no way, shape or form are they hardened hooligans or fighters.
The problem now of course is they suffer from the years England were the top hooligan firm in Europe. They are still treated that way by the police and are a target for all the hooligan firms abroad, who's countries are at least twenty years behind us in rooting out the problem. Hence they mainly get battered now as they're not there for a fight, just to watch the football.
This thread is about hooliganism around Maine Road and City, the England hooligans were a separate issue altogether.

 

[Kippax77]

I'll point something out to both yourself and @Kazzydeyna . For a large number of years now there has been no known hooligans travelling with England. They are not allowed as they have banning orders and have to surrender their passports when England are playing away. The majority of England fans following England abroad are just normal fans, shirters. Now a few young lads not convicted of a football related offence may make the trip, get pissed and play up, as young lads do everywhere. That happens on holidays too. In no way, shape or form are they hardened hooligans or fighters.
The problem now of course is they suffer from the years England were the top hooligan firm in Europe. They are still treated that way by the police and are a target for all the hooligan firms abroad, who's countries are at least twenty years behind us in rooting out the problem. Hence they mainly get battered now as they're not there for a fight, just to watch the football.
This thread is about hooliganism around Maine Road and City, the England hooligans were a separate issue altogether.

Stupid bottle throwing England fans, I said if you read it properly.
Did I say England firm?
Just take a deep breath before writing the essay

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Absolutely correct mate. Unrelated, but one of my favourite memories from an international tournament is the other year when the English “firms” got utterly, completely, and absolutely smashed to smithereens by a smaller number of proper ‘hooligans’, the Russians.
Theses gobby, cowardly, shit-house wankers got complete fucked up and slapped all the way back to “Ingerland”.

Absolutely brilliant and richly deserved.

They’ve barely made a peep ever since. I’ve never seen a single film of a “hooligan” having a fair one on one straightener. Because they’re all, to a man, exclusively cowards.

There were a lot of shirters and women who got leathered that day by the Russians. I’m talking chairs smashed over heads, kicked in the head, heads stamped on when already unconscious… completely normal every day people who were just over there for football. Kids were being thrown and kicked over.

It was not absolutely brilliant at all.

 

[Indaparkside]

Love it. What a pretentious ****. Who the fuck uses the term “baffles”? Grammar schooled, posh ****. ;)

I agree that posh **** @mancityvstoke comes from hale

 

[mancityvstoke]

I agree that posh **** @mancityvstoke comes from hale

Yeah top private skooling in Gorton as well

Meeting posh totty in the Ritz

Should have supported Peterborough
(Remember that FA cup game?)

 

[paulchapo]

Stupid bottle throwing England fans, I said if you read it properly.
Did I say England firm?
Just take a deep breath before writing the essay

I did and I stand by every word. You seemed to revel in innocent shirter England fans getting in your words, "Mothered." You did add bottle throwing too, though chair throwing might be more appropriate. I merely pointed out the England fans over there were a far cry from the sort of England fans who went years ago and therefore easy pickings for military trained Russian steroid freaks complete with go pros. Maybe you need to take a deep breath eh?

 

[BufordUSABlue]

Thought so, all the local rags were out that day for City. I was in the Chesterfield kop and it was pretty moody in there to the left hand side, a few city were in and it kicked off. Chesterfield rags, fucking hundreds of the twats

They were moody for sure Fordy
Looking to take big scalps no doubt
We were having a decent post match slurp with their lads and one of their ‘Captains’ all of whom were sound, until their main man came in and we were ‘asked’ to leave ;-)

 

[Kippax77]

I did and I stand by every word. You seemed to revel in innocent shirter England fans getting in your words, "Mothered." You did add bottle throwing too, though chair throwing might be more appropriate. I merely pointed out the England fans over there were a far cry from the sort of England fans who went years ago and therefore easy pickings for military trained Russian steroid freaks complete with go pros. Maybe you need to take a deep breath eh?

I'll take your word for it then as you appear to be very knowledgeable on the matter.
"Revel" hahaha

 

[paulchapo]

I'll take your word for it then as you appear to be very knowledgeable on the matter.
"Revel" hahaha

If you weren't around in the prime hooligan days you haven't got a clue, nobody who wasn't there has. You can see the odd skirmish now and then at games nowadays but trust me it is kids stuff to what used to happen. Not glorifying it but that's how it was. Everytime you ventured to a game you risked getting jumped, fighting or legging it.

 

[Kippax77]

If you weren't around in the prime hooligan days you haven't got a clue, nobody who wasn't there has. You can see the odd skirmish now and then at games nowadays but trust me it is kids stuff to what used to happen. Not glorifying it but that's how it was. Everytime you ventured to a game you risked getting jumped, fighting or legging it.

And i loved it back then.
But we've all had to grow up and become grandads, which is much more fulfilling and rewarding.
At least i've still got the memories of some "very eventful" times with city all over the country and i wouldn't swap those for anything

 

[paulchapo]

And i loved it back then.
But we've all had to grow up and become grandads, which is much more fulfilling and rewarding.
At least i've still got the memories of some "very eventful" times with city all over the country and i wouldn't swap those for anything

It's just how it was back then. The people getting involved now are nuts with all the CCTV, banning orders etcetera. In our day it was a cuff around the ear off a copper or a £25 fine if you were unlucky enough to be caught.
Europe came to the party 20 years too late. If they want to claim a victory battering normal fans and shirters they can, but they know it's a hollow one.

 

[mainestand]

I remember the home derby, forget the exact year, when they started building the new estate on upper Lloyd St, Tommy Johnson walk, Fred Tilson close, and all the bricks were along the edge of the site on upper Lloyd St, unbelievable brick fight before and after the game everyone was getting hit, men, women, kids and coppers both sets of fans going crazy throwing full bricks at one another.
During the match there was bricks flying back and forth across the Kippax and the no man’s land which then was just the rope from top to bottom, that noise as bricks and bottles were thrown up into the metal roof trusses you never forget it if you were there in those years, and also the young female blue launching a full scalding hot bovril drink into the face of a rag as they walked up the tunnel after he’d made some comment about her. Certainly no pavement dancers back then, it happened every week every ground up and down the country, you did what you had to do.