Matheus Nunes

[Gorton_Tubster]

Neither are other clubs. But if City keep on treating selling clubs as mugs with an initial low ball offer that a club won’t accept and will genuinely be insulted by, don’t expect that club to make the sale of a player we want to buy easy. By all means go in with an initial offer slightly below or below their valuation of the player, but don’t continue taking the piss out of clubs. City will soon get reputation for doing that. It’s a shit and insulting transfer strategy.

We are not united.

our reputation, is that we walk away from deals when the seller is asking too much. Not to just give what they want easily, then give them a massive contract. That's the United way.

Our club have done brilliant business over the years. And we have the reputation of not being taken the piss-out-of because of that approach.

 

[Academica]

If we keep on going with this method though, we will probably never sign a top Premier league player ever again. Kovacic seemed to be easy as Chelsea had to have a fire sale, and seemingly were happy to accept a lower fee. Sometimes you have to accept a rival teams fee they've put on a player

And sometimes you walk away.

 

[Sir peace frog]

The answer to that is yes there manger came out after the game and explained why he isn't training with first team

what was the explanation ?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

What Wolves paid and what they want now is their business and whether he has been their ten months or ten years is irrelevant. They can put whatever figure they want on his head

Clearly, I've never disputed that. I just questioned Keepers rationale that his value has gone up by 25 to 59% based on him scoring 1 goal last season and frankly being poor in a poor Wolves side.

Some on here seem to think we should just pay whatever for a player just because that's what the selling club want and that Chelsea have distorted the market. That's not the way City have operated at all. I just don't see that happening.

 

[richards30]

There is nobody higher up in terms of transfers, he’s top dog

Txiki is part of a transfer team but is NOT the money guy!

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

what was the explanation ?

Said the they had pulled him out of training with the squad whilst all this with city was going on basically

 

[ManCityGR!]

How things are going on this transfer? Are we close?
Sign him(and do not give any other player, e.g keep Palmer and Phillips) and we are perfect for this season!

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

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[Deleted member 77198]

If this doesn't happen, here's a thought about Phillips. I guess Pep has decided he can't play the Rodri role ( I agree) as single holding midfielder. However now we've got Kovacic, can he play along side him in the same way as he has done with with Rice for England, the 2 +2 box midfield might suit him better and give an option to play without Rodri in some games. Maybe that's Plan B (or C etc.) if Nunes deal is off. As Corporal Jones said, "Don't panic!"

Phillips played a little further forward in inside-right midfield and did well in the England game against Croatia in Euro 2020, setting up Sterling’s goal nicely.


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I’m not saying play him there every week for City, but he’s a better player than he’s shown for us so far. Even if he improved at the same ratio as, say, Rodri did from his first season to now, that would still make Phillips a very good squad player from the base he’s at at the moment.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

For those of you saying he's right to strike well ok. But have you considered he could go on strike with us if real Madrid were to come knocking this time next year?

I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole - as they say.

 

[mosssideblue]

Clearly, I've never disputed that. I just questioned Keepers rationale that his value has gone up by 25 to 59% based on him scoring 1 goal last season and frankly being poor in a poor Wolves side.

Some on here seem to think we should just pay whatever for a player just because that's what the selling club want and that Chelsea have distorted the market. That's not the way City have operated at all. I just don't see that happening.

I see it happening. We know what wolves want and we negotiate towards that

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

For those of you saying he's right to strike well ok. But have you considered he could go on strike with us if real Madrid were to come knocking this time next year?

I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole - as they say.

He didn't strike

 

[Academica]

How did you arrive at your conclusion that 25% to 50% mark up is reasonable ?

You seem to think that just because a player has been in the PL a year and done nothing , his value should automatically go up a huge amount? Seems a very odd conclusion to me.

Do you think the same applies to Calvin Phillips ?

We have tabled an offer of a bit more than Wolves paid. But personally I doubt we are going to just up the fee to anywhere near that.

Maguire must be worth £120m now.

 

[Sir peace frog]

It does frustrate me that city are so quick to to brag about how much money they have made from selling x,y and z academy products. It just stinks of a very insecure mindset, a desperation to be accepted & admired by the wide football community. We all know that won’t ever happen and the narrative we just spend spend spend will continue.

This transfer window hasn’t gone well and as a result we may just have to suck it up and slightly overpay for Nunes. The market has changed and we will not get worldwide acclaim for refusing to pay above our valuation. Just feels like cutting our nose to spite our face.

As it stands we haven’t got the squad capable of competing for all 4 competitions (which is clearly the clubs aim). An injury to rodri and the season could be similar to the 2019/20 campaign. We have yet another chance to make history by becoming the first side to win 4 prem titles in a row. I just don’t understand why city seemingly are willing to put that achievement in serious jeopardy by hampering pep and weakening the squad.

as has been proven,we have the same amount of players as last season, except for the stones and kev injury its been pretty much like for like .

As for the spend spend spend, there are rules we need to keep to, maybe we are looking at a player for next season when he becomes available so wont go over our budget this season, imagine we wont pay 60m for nunes this window, and splash the cash on wirtz(never seen him play) because we didnt meet the gvardiol,nunes,duko,kovacic fees first wanted by their old clubs, everything isnt black and white, but our board know how to play the game.

 

[not my fault!]

For those of you saying he's right to strike well ok. But have you considered he could go on strike with us if real Madrid were to come knocking this time next year?

I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole - as they say.

Franny Lee did it, Mahrez did it… that’s just two that did it to move to City! It’s not a new concept and neither did it to get a move anywhere else. Not sound logic really.

 

[Sir peace frog]

What about Omar and Ferran? Why is it always txiki’s fault?

because some on here don't know what his actual job is, he might have a say in the negotiations he might not , he finds the players or his department does, presents them to the board, and the board or negotiating team take over however he definitely will not have a say on how much we will go to.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

You have to know when to hold em, know when to fold em

Txiki 2023

(or could have been the gambler)

 

[Sir peace frog]

6 different midfielders not going our way this summer with £100m in our pocked if you include Gundo leaving unexpectedly.

Genuine self sabotage, we'd all be howling if it was United/Liverpool doing it.

The blokes only redeeming asset is being Peps bezzie

you're a bit of a twat ,aren't you

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

The truth is we've already had a good window, right here, right now. Kovacic and Gvardiol appear to have fitted in seamlessly. I'm astonished by it, frankly. I don't remember two players arriving and just looking right at home like this from their very first appearances. You'd say they'd been playing with Pep and the team for years.
We have this lad Doku, who some seem to rate (and who Pep and Txiki must rate, by definition).
In the above context, we get this guy, or not, at our price, or not. No sweat. If not, we keep McAtee, presumably. From my point of view that's only a good thing. I'm hoping he'd be played occasionally, at least in cup matches and, depending on injuries, parts of the odd league match here and there.

 

[domalino]

One thing really can’t stand about this forum is the posters who seem to think there is some huge conspiracy against city. I can promise you they are not investigating Paqueta in some weird attempt to stop him joining city.

The irony of course is that in theory we shouldn't have even known about the confidential investigation into Paqueta, nor West Ham, nor Paqueta and someone at the FA did us a massive favour by letting it out.