PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mancboy]

Clear cut. Moshiri is just fronting it.

it doesnt really matter who owns everton as they arent considered a threat, if they ever became one you better believe it would matter, same as newcastle at the moment they are just a nice story and the 'established clubs' hope they will go back in their box after a nice little jaunt to the champions league, if they start becoming consistent contenders at the expense of the dippers, rags, liverpool etc then that PIF ownership will be very heavily scrutinised.

Its a witch hunt at the hands of the red shirts and everyone knows it, its a last desperate grab to wrestle back power from the upstarts but they are so entrenched in the istree of their clubs and so myopic about things they cant even see that it is doomed to fail.

 

[East Level 2]

it doesnt really matter who owns everton as they arent considered a threat, if they ever became one you better believe it would matter, same as newcastle at the moment they are just a nice story and the 'established clubs' hope they will go back in their box after a nice little jaunt to the champions league, if they start becoming consistent contenders at the expense of the dippers, rags, liverpool etc then that PIF ownership will be very heavily scrutinised.

Its a witch hunt at the hands of the red shirts and everyone knows it, its a last desperate grab to wrestle back power from the upstarts but they are so entrenched in the istree of their clubs and so myopic about things they cant even see that it is doomed to fail.

This and only this. The PL as a whole don't care, but certain PL member clubs do care and insisted on an investigation. They don't know if there is anything worth investigating but they want action, whether it is warranted or not.

 

[Plain Speaking]

A lot of questions should be asked of anyone's mindset who is willing to pay Raheem Sterling 350k a week for playing football

To be fair, according to Sportrac, we paid him £300k/wk when he was here, and he increased to £325k/wk when he moved to Chelsea!

 

[Asa's left peg]

Slightly off topic lol

Where I live a struck off solicitor who stole from his clients is in charge of a company trying to reopen manston airport. The government report says is a no go'er. But the two local MP'S supporter him. The government have ignored the independent reviews and give permission to reopen the airport port. First he has to raise 500million quid. Who in the right mind would invest in a company run by struck off solicitor for nicking clients moneys and an our MP who is a director of an aircraft haulage company !.

I guess my point is how these people can get others to believe in them ! I wouldnt trust them with 50p.

A few grants, build up a few accounts on credit with big multi nationals, then bugger off when it is cancelled. Everyone's a winner. Its been going on for many years

 

[Asa's left peg]

Clear cut. Moshiri is just fronting it.

It was suspected at the time Everton were took over. Usemanov couldn't get the yanks out of the arse, so got his money out and gave it to Moshiri to buy the toffees.

 

[SilverFox2]

Dunno about you, but i absolutely relish that thought. i regularly "admit" that we are just cheating our way to titles....i find it pisses them off more than trying to refute everything.

Wallow in their misery i say

We certainly admit to having a world class invester whe admits he chose a world class business team then admits to having employed a world class manager who selected his world class team.
Our owner also admits to leaving profits within the Group relying only on its growth capability not bleeding it dry.
We as fans admit to supporting our team through decades of mismanagement and our history allows us to understand that fans who have only known trophies in their recent history must find it hard when their traditional joke of a neighbour usurps their spoils.

 

[blue moony]

Slightly off topic lol

Where I live a struck off solicitor who stole from his clients is in charge of a company trying to reopen manston airport. The government report says is a no go'er. But the two local MP'S supporter him. The government have ignored the independent reviews and give permission to reopen the airport port. First he has to raise 500million quid. Who in the right mind would invest in a company run by struck off solicitor for nicking clients moneys and an our MP who is a director of an aircraft haulage company !.

I guess my point is how these people can get others to believe in them ! I wouldnt trust them with 50p.

I live in Minster so that's going to be noisy .... thanets a shit hole now anyway

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Where I live a struck off solicitor

Did this solicitor do a lot of work in the small claims court and have a drink problem?

 

[give it to gordon]

I live in Minster so that's going to be noisy .... thanets a shit hole now anyway

I live in monkton and agree thanet is a shit hole !

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

Dunno about you, but i absolutely relish that thought. i regularly "admit" that we are just cheating our way to titles....i find it pisses them off more than trying to refute everything.

Wallow in their misery i say

Just to go back to my previous point....having a read through the City thread on RAWK just makes me want this to drag on and on and on...its fuckin delicious

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I would find the process dragging on beyond this season a depressing prospect so my ideal scenario is that we are found not guilty on all charges in the week leading up to a home game where a win would clinch the title.

So around mid-April hopefully...

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Delicious

Revenge is a dish best served frothy. ;-)))

 

[slbsn]

re the YouTube attack in June 23. Absolutely everything re the integrity/validity of the Etisalat payments could be resolved via an affidavit from the relevant Etisalat CEO or CFO circa 2011/2012. Of course they are under no obligation whatsoever to cooperate with a PL kangaroo court. However a witness statement from either executive would be the type of irrefutable evidence mentioned in the clubs statement in Feb 2023. The notion that our legal experts, who are amongst the best in the world, would propose a defence based on a contrived third party called "Mr Jabber" is so pathetic it would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious.

City called a Senior Vice President in the Contracts and Administration Department of Etisalat who gave witness evidence to CAS under oath. His evidence was that the allegations were "ridiculous" and that the sponsorship had "delivered excellent returns" and outperformed expectations.

 

[domalino]

City called a Senior Vice President in the Contracts and Administration Department of Etisalat who gave witness evidence to CAS under oath. His evidence was that the allegations were "ridiculous" and that the sponsorship had "delivered excellent returns" and outperformed expectations.

I know Etisalat aren't the ones under investigation, but presumably their marketing department and upper management would have some sort of document trail showing what they expected to get out of a sponsorship, and reviews of quarterly sales before and after. If it was such an excellent deal there would have been correspondence from the time between Etisalat employees.

We basically relied on CAS taking him at his word, and I know he was under oath but different people might find him less credible or think Etisalat's ownership compromises his reliability.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I know Etisalat aren't the ones under investigation, but presumably their marketing department and upper management would have some sort of document trail showing what they expected to get out of a sponsorship, and reviews of quarterly sales before and after. If it was such an excellent deal there would have been correspondence from the time between Etisalat employees.

We basically relied on CAS taking him at his word, and I know he was under oath but different people might find him less credible or think Etisalat's ownership compromises his reliability.

Nobody is disputing the fair value of the contracts as far as I am aware. There is no need to justify the performance of the sponsorship. All the club has to show is that valid contracts existed, the services described in the contracts were provided and that the amounts invoiced were settled in accordance with the contracts / HoAs in place at the time.

I will say again, the idea that a company regulated by the authorities and funded by one of the richest governments in the world would enter into an agreement it couldn't finance for a measely 30 million is just ridiculous. If they don't have alternative contracts or a whistleblower from AD, then they don't have any chance of making anything stick, other than innuendo, on Etisalat. And I am 99.9% sure they have neither.

 

[John Wayne]

I know Etisalat aren't the ones under investigation, but presumably their marketing department and upper management would have some sort of document trail showing what they expected to get out of a sponsorship, and reviews of quarterly sales before and after. If it was such an excellent deal there would have been correspondence from the time between Etisalat employees.

We basically relied on CAS taking him at his word, and I know he was under oath but different people might find him less credible or think Etisalat's ownership compromises his reliability.

The latter being the case, then the panel would have to provide a detailed and cogent explanation in their determination as to why the testimony of a man taken under oath should have little or no weight applied to it. I think it is highly unlikely that such a sworn testimony would be taken lightly. The board at Etisalat would not take lightly any inference by the panel that they are not to be believed.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

The Der Spiegal weasel Riu Pinto (self proclaimed whistle blower) has been handed a four year prison sentence (suspended). Apparently he was the beneficiary of a Papal amnesty in Portugal so the sentence was lenient. However he's still in deep shit and facing an additional 377 charges ! These are related to "hacking and leaking, correspondence crimes and computer damage".
Its not clear if the charges relate to the illegal hacking of MCFC email servers. I've not spotted any coverage of this in the UK MSM, I wonder why ?

Whistleblower Rui Pinto given four-year suspended sentence in Football Leaks trial amid ongoing legal woes - ICIJ

Dozens of charges against Pinto — who is also the source behind ICIJ’s Luanda Leaks — were dropped due to a recent amnesty. He faces 377 charges in a separate case tied to the exposé that revealed the dark underbelly of the global football industry.

www.icij.org

 

[manimanc]

Funny how the Premier League haven't gone back a few years and reopened the case of the scouse twats hacking our database.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Funny how the Premier League haven't gone back a few years and reopened the case of the scouse twats hacking our database.

In terms of gaining a meaningful sporting advantage, I'd argue that hacking into another clubs scouting database is a much more serious offence than anything alleged in the current witch hunt against us.

Don't care if it was a rogue employee or not. He was employed by Liverpool and there's little doubt he'd have kept the acquired information to himself and it wouldn't have became common knowledge amongst the senior figures and hierarchy at the club.

They cheated, simple as.

 

[manimanc]

In terms of gaining a meaningful sporting advantage, I'd argue that hacking into another clubs scouting database is a much more serious offence than anything alleged in the current witch hunt against us.

Don't care if it was a rogue employee or not. He was employed by Liverpool and there's little doubt he'd have kept the acquired information to himself and it wouldn't have became common knowledge amongst the senior figures and hierarchy at the club.

They cheated, simple as.

Red shirts mate, untouchable.