Russian invasion of Ukraine

Gareth Barry Conlon said:
It makes perfect sense. In a largely static war you chose the position to defend carefully. Holding ground for the sake of Holding ground is stupid if there is a better natural defensive line just behind you.
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Makes absolute sense.

Well, I said in the summer let’s wait until November before judging and it’s November next week, so I don’t think I’m jumping the gun.

Disappointing progress, but certainly not devastating. It’s clearly tougher going than many anticipated, myself included. There has definitely been progress, but it’s been somewhat limited. It seems to be turning into a war of attrition, at least for now.

Doesn’t change my views one bit about the need to keep Supporting Ukraine, even if it makes us materially poorer. We are fighting against tyranny, and that doesn’t come free. The future of our continent is at stake.
 
I find it quite interesting how "quiet" the Russians are in the Israeli conflict..... for perfectly understandable reasons.

Had there not been the invasion of Ukraine I feel certain they would have been a bit more vocal and indeed active.

That said, maybe they are still pulling strings somewhere along the line.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
I find it quite interesting how "quiet" the Russians are in the Israeli conflict..... for perfectly understandable reasons.

Had there not been the invasion of Ukraine I feel certain they would have been a bit more vocal and indeed active.

That said, maybe they are still pulling strings somewhere along the line.
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guess where HAMAS delegation was days ago?
 
BigJoe#1 said:
I find it quite interesting how "quiet" the Russians are in the Israeli conflict..... for perfectly understandable reasons.

Had there not been the invasion of Ukraine I feel certain they would have been a bit more vocal and indeed active.

That said, maybe they are still pulling strings somewhere along the line.
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I have no evidence but I’m absolutely sure that Russia has a hand in what happened in Israel. You don’t go from the odd missile to 5000, and a coordinated land sea and air assault of that magnitude without a lot of planning and assistance. It was either just Iran or Iran and Russia. But with the fact Iran has been helping for years without this level of escalation it’s why I think Russia as well.
 
grunge said:
I have no evidence but I’m absolutely sure that Russia has a hand in what happened in Israel. You don’t go from the odd missile to 5000, and a coordinated land sea and air assault of that magnitude without a lot of planning and assistance. It was either just Iran or Iran and Russia. But with the fact Iran has been helping for years without this level of escalation it’s why I think Russia as well.
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**** needed this conflict to turn away attention from Ukraine. no wonder Avdiivka's orc massacre started right after it. the result as always went not according to plan
 


While Ukraine has heroes defenders like this they will stay a free European country, for me they made great progress they stopped the advance that happened in the first few days of the invasion.
No time limit on defeating the Russians, supported in Europe by double standards time to give everything promised and stop dragging it out give them planes and an aircraft carrier in the Black Sea to oversea grain shipments a ground attack needs air support I learned that from ww2
 
CTID1977 said:
**** needed this conflict to turn away attention from Ukraine. no wonder Avdiivka's orc massacre started right after it. the result as always went not according to plan
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I hadn't quite joined all those dots together but like you suggest; it makes perfect sense that as the world looks in on the Israeli/Palestine conflict the Russian massacre of its own begins. I thought it too good to be true that Russia had no public profile in this war....

If this is true Putin really is one of the worst manipulative, megalomaniac potential war criminals the world as ever known, right there upsides Hitler.
 
Day 612 Update:
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Ukraine Invasion Day 612: 125 lost RU vehicles at Avdiivka

Ukrainian forces marginally advanced on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast and continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 27. Germany and Denmark announced new military aid packages to Ukraine on October...
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In a 3 week period Russia has lost a huge chunk of it's yearly production of tanks and AFVs (Armoured Fighting Vehicles).
 
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BigJoe#1 said:
I hadn't quite joined all those dots together but like you suggest; it makes perfect sense that as the world looks in on the Israeli/Palestine conflict the Russian massacre of its own begins. I thought it too good to be true that Russia had no public profile in this war....

If this is true Putin really is one of the worst manipulative, megalomaniac potential war criminals the world as ever known, right there upsides Hitler.
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Whatever man may have been in there at one point has become completely consumed and warped by power. I think most people with that amount of power, for as long as that, would become absolute cunts. Human nature being what it is.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
I hate the fact Ukraine are fighting the huge force of Russia alone, while the US send an aircraft carrier to support Israel. Yes we have sent military aid in the form of money and weapons but ever so slowly dragging Russian invasion out
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The US doesn’t really care about Ukraine. It cares about weakening another ‘super power’.

A fast decisive victory for Ukraine (or Russia) would have done significantly less damage to Putin than this prolonged war of attrition.

It’s going to plan perfectly for the US.
 
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