Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

mexico1970 said:
Try reading my earlier posts about the conflict, I was just stating a truth that PB was referring to the Jews when he said never again.

I am not getting into a conversation about this conflict when I want it to stop like everyone else, what I wont do is pile on, it's like Xmas come early for some of the west haters on here.
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We don’t hate the West, we hate the people who run it and how they do it. They don’t give a fuck about their own poor and struggling people. They created a system where the gap increases incrementally. They expect the working class to pay the bills for selfish and corrupt economic policies. They expect us to fight and win every fucking war we have ever fought then keep the spoils to themselves.

From Lloyd George’s Homes fit for heroes, never happened. To today, we see broken veterans living on the streets. We see children go hungry. Old people the same. But we need to tighten our belts? Fuck off to that, the West isn’t the problem, it’s how they act we hate.
 
Magicpole said:
No one on the left gives a single fuck about religion. You are tarring a whole people who are being punished because of the nutters. No one is supporting Hamas. People are rightly supporting the innocents being blown apart and if they are lucky, dug out of rubble. It is supporting 2m without food or water. Israel have blocked all phones and internet so the world can’t see what they are up to. The left are against a political situation that makes them second class citizens living in an open air prison. That’s who the left are supporting and why. The Right also try to demonise and attempt to make Israel’s actions seem justified. And reading your post it seems to be working. Israel kill hundreds every year and nobody gives a fuck. There will never be peace for all of them with a far right gov. Massacaring defenceless people, no matter what side does it. If it all kicks off and thousands are dying, the Arab states and Hezbollah will go ahead. They have no option. Their populaces will demand it. Israel is putting its very existence on the line by continually treating Palestinians like shit. I said it in another post, Israel needs to win every war, they just need to wn one. The left in Israel want peace and a fair go for the Palestinians. But as usual, it’s the Right who fuck everything up with their hate and superiority complex. Their claim is a made up book of fiction where their **** of a god supposedly picked them as the chosen ones. How the fuck that is taken seriously is beyond farce. Sadly the world is full of deluded morons who think their books of shite are true.

And here we are, on the precipice of potentially a massive war, thanks to rightwing religious bastards. Funny thing is, neither of their versions of god seem to be giving a fuck about the innocents on both sides who pay the price. It’s almost as if they don’t exist.
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No one is supporting Hamas?
Bollox - calling for intifada from London to Gaza in demo's today I see.
Tearing down posters referring to the missing captured in the raid on Israel.
I could go on but there's no point as it would be a waste of time.
 
Eebo said:
So if it vaporises them in mid air it wouldn't be causing a big explosion when it lands would it?

However real my point was Israeli claimed that it was a Hamas rocket fired from a cemetary and the most ikely one is very near the hospital

Therefore the Israeli air defense systems - presumably located in Israel - would have to have detected and intercepted a rocket fired from very close to the hospital almost as soon as it was launched

The intercepting projectile would need to a travel a minimum of 10Km from the Israeli border to just above the hospital in the middle of Gaza in the same time as the Hamas rocket travelled a few hundred metres. I'm no rocket scientist but the general principle is that they fly pretty quick and so I remain sceptical about this claim.
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Did you see the video of the interception?
Find it and watch it.
It's not difficult.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Did you see the video of the interception?
Find it and watch it.
It's not difficult.
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That is not answering the question but I don't suppose you really care about that

Just because it is on film it must be true eh?

You are going to be in for a shock when you hear about deep fakes.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Israel has got a right to defend itself, but it’s now defended itself more than enough. It’s adequately made its point.
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I think they passed that point at least a week ago and when are they going to stop?

They need to be careful, many decent people/countries who once support them are now openly questioning them and turning against them and that's only going to make this tragic and horrific time far worse.
 
BlueAnorak said:
No one is supporting Hamas?
Bollox - calling for intifada from London to Gaza in demo's today I see.
Tearing down posters referring to the missing captured in the raid on Israel.
I could go on but there's no point as it would be a waste of time.
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I wish some on here would answer this question: If Israel stops bombing Gaza then what should Israel do about the continued Hamas rocket attacks?

Selective amnesia is prevalent on this issue, especially for those who have conveniently already forgotten the 7th October.

Israel must stop, it has gone too far now, but so has Hamas who did the same thing 3 weeks ago.
 
Keeper! said:
I think they passed that point at least a week ago and when are they going to stop?
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When they feel the Islamic death cult that is Hamas and any others like Hezbollah if they also attack are no longer a threat to the peace and security of Israel.

They have said it countless times and are not changing their minds on it.

Israel has declared war.

It’s a simplistic answer but it’s the only one that you will get from Israel right now.
 
inbetween said:
I wish some on here would answer this question: If Israel stops bombing Gaza then what should Israel do about the continued Hamas rocket attacks?

Selective amnesia is prevalent on this issue, especially those who conveniently forget the 7th October.
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Nobody is forgetting it ffs, slaughtering innocents is not on for either side , go in on the ground and fight hamas that way , at least less palestines will be slaughtered
 
kaz7 said:
Nobody is forgetting it ffs, slaughtering innocents is not on for either side , go in on the ground and fight hamas that way , at least less palestines will be slaughtered
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With respect, I think the IDF would be more than happy to meet Hamas on the open battlefield but that was never going too happen was it given what Hamas are and their tactics?
 
blueinsa said:
When they feel the Islamic death cult that is Hamas and any others like Hezbollah if they also attack are no longer a threat to the peace and security of Israel.

They have said it countless times and are not changing their minds on it.

Israel has declared war.

It’s a simplistic answer but it’s the only one that you will get from Israel right now.
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As said they need to be carefull, the world will turn on them and then thing could well get very nasty.
 
blueinsa said:
With respect, I think the IDF would be more than happy to meet Hamas on the open battlefield but that was never going too happen was it given what Hamas are and their tactics?
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The other is israel dont give a shit about innocents if they are not their own , cutting off all services to the people is not going to deliver them hamas . Israel have one of the most hardened forces in the world , sent them in to street fight with hamas

We and biden condoning killing palestines on mass makes me as sick as hamas killing israels people
 
kaz7 said:
Nobody is forgetting it ffs, slaughtering innocents is not on for either side , go in on the ground and fight hamas that way , at least less palestines will be slaughtered
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Maybe Israel want as many Palestinians slaughtered as possible and now Hamas has given them the excuse to do just that.

I would say that Benjamin Netanyahu is just as dangerous and evil as Hamas, but that's my personal opinion.
 
BlueAnorak said:
No one is supporting Hamas?
Bollox - calling for intifada from London to Gaza in demo's today I see.
Tearing down posters referring to the missing captured in the raid on Israel.
I could go on but there's no point as it would be a waste of time.
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Putting posters up in London about people missing in a raid in Israel is really not about finding them is it?

It is pushing the agenda of ones sides politics in a cosmopolitan city where there are people with relatives on the other side and therefore not surprising or horrific when the other side responds by taking them down.

What do you think would happen if someone put pictures of the slaughter in Gaza up in Tel Aviv - how long would they stay up?
 
Magicpole said:
Religions are all right wing. Don’t complain, you will be rewarded in heaven. Obey your masters. They all could have been written by the Economic League. With the Right it’s all God, Flag, and we are the superior race. God loves us. In America the Evangelical scummy, stupendously moronic fucking twats have convinced themselves Jeezy the Joiner, is white, loves guns, hates abortion and gives out favours for cash like a dirty fucking whore. Oh and they support Trump and this war getting worse because they want Armageddon.
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Depends how you define religion really. Some might say North Korea, for example, hold their leaders in god-like esteem.

I suppose the common denominator being if you put all your faith in one almighty power - be they real or imaginary - you’re likely to be disappointed when you find out they don’t exist or don’t give a fuck. Cults come in all shapes and sizes and aren’t the exclusive territory of the left or right.
 
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