Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

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It’s such a tragic situation for all the parties involved, I do blame the Americans for taking their eyes off the situation, believing it could be managed by hi tech fences and increased brutality, they looked the other way and they are now caught between a rock and a hard place, they know their reputation has been damaged, they know this just gives Iran more influence in the region

What’s needed is cool pragmatic heads there are over 2 million people in Gaza, with the sanitation system broken there could be an outbreak of cholera, on top of all the destruction

Gaza’s next big threat: Cholera, infectious diseases amid total blockade

Humanitarian organisations warn deadly water-borne diseases will spread in the besieged strip if aid is not allowed in.

www.aljazeera.com

Tainted water and viruses put Gaza residents, especially kids, at further risk

Flu, Covid and waterborne bacterial illnesses threaten the health of an already vulnerable population.

www.nbcnews.com

It's just a matter of time.

 

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10 questions by Ralph Nader.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/10/30/mass-media-needs-to-probe-deeper-re-israel-gaza-conflict/

Note that over three-quarters of Gaza’s population consists of children and women. Soon there will be thousands of babies born to die in the rubble. Other Palestinians will perish from untreated diseases, injuries, dehydration, and from drinking contaminated water. With crumbled sanitation facilities, physicians are fearing a deadly cholera epidemic.

 

[Ducado]

Gaza’s next big threat: Cholera, infectious diseases amid total blockade

Humanitarian organisations warn deadly water-borne diseases will spread in the besieged strip if aid is not allowed in.

www.aljazeera.com

Tainted water and viruses put Gaza residents, especially kids, at further risk

Flu, Covid and waterborne bacterial illnesses threaten the health of an already vulnerable population.

www.nbcnews.com

It's just a matter of time.

That’s why I am convinced that pretty soon the Americans will call a halt, the blow back for them will be terrible plus it’s only strengthening Iran

 

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That’s why I am convinced that pretty soon the Americans will call a halt, the blow back for them will be terrible plus it’s only strengthening Iran

I haven't see anyone in the west with any gravitas talk publicly about the real risk of a deadly contagion. Have you? In any-case Netanyahu has made it perfectly clear today he is not for turning.

 

[Ducado]

I haven't see anyone in the west with any gravitas talk publicly about the real risk of a deadly contagion. Have you? In any-case Netanyahu has made it perfectly clear today he is not for turning.

He’s a snake, he will turn when he’s told to, the Americans can and won’t allow this to go on, they can’t afford to, it’s simple geopolitical reality, not only Iran but China is also vying for influence in the region, and they can pump lots of money and arms into the region

Some climb down presented as victory will happen, the alternative would be quite horrific

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I’ve given up replying to what has been spewed out in here recently, but this is probably in reply to more reasonable conversations I had earlier.

There are plenty of Jewish people of different descriptions that do not agree with Zionism. They are not all rabbis of some cult or other, if any are at all.
Anti-Israel comments can be, but are not as a rule, anti-Semitic.

This guy is worth listening to until the end. He’s Jewish, his grandparents died in Aushwitz, he himself was a holocaust survivor as a baby.
There are a number of other sources recommended at the end of this.
I have listened to Ilan Pappe and will check out the journalist he mentions in the West Bank.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It’s such a tragic situation for all the parties involved, I do blame the Americans for taking their eyes off the situation, believing it could be managed by hi tech fences and increased brutality, they looked the other way and they are now caught between a rock and a hard place, they know their reputation has been damaged, they know this just gives Iran more influence in the region

What’s needed is cool pragmatic heads there are over 2 million people in Gaza, with the sanitation system broken there could be an outbreak of cholera, on top of all the destruction

 

[BlueAnorak]

Only a matter of time till.it happens in the UK. Hate is now permitted by the UK state - ..especially anti-semetism. It's already starting to happen on UK university campuses. 59 incidents of extremism against Jewish students so far since the Hamas terrorist attack

 

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[Vic]

Did you raise this hypothetical cub in the full knowledge it would kill? But you still helped it get big and strong anyway? Because if so you should probably go to prison.

"You" in this case being Netanyahu?

 

[mexico1970]

Only a matter of time till.it happens in the UK. Hate is now permitted by the UK state - ..especially anti-semetism. It's already starting to happen on UK university campuses. 59 incidents of extremism against Jewish people so far aince the Hamas terrorist attack:

Mate they'd let rapists and murderers out to jail people for hate crime in this country, if there ever was a need to protect a minority from being chased and terrorised in this country I would advocate extreme violence against those perpetrating the violence.

I can feel the rise of hatred towards Jews and people are emboldened.

 

[Vic]

...if there ever was a need to protect a minority from being chased and terrorised in Israel I would advocate extreme violence against those perpetrating the violence.

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You see how these things work?

What would you do to the settlers?

 

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Missed this earlier.

Israel-Hamas war: Conservative MP Paul Bristow sacked from government post after calling for Gaza ceasefire

Paul Bristow was a parliamentary private secretary with the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology. This is one of the most junior roles in government. The decision to remove him from post contrasts with the varied positions Labour is allowing its senior MPs to take.

news.sky.com

He was fired for comments that are "not consistent with the principles of collective responsibility," a Number 10 spokesperson said.

IMO he was fired for comments that are "not consistent with the principles of collective punishment." Insert Humphrey Appleby gif here >

 

[mexico1970]

You see how these things work?

What would you do to the settlers?

The way it works in THIS country not abroad, foreigners can sort their own shit out in their own countries.

We in this country should strengthen the sentences for anti-Semitism to prevent the simmering under the surface bigots that see this as a chance.

 

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The Israeli leader and Hamas are deadly enemies — and allies in opposing a 2-state solution.​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

From the article, the following caption under a picture of Itamar Ben Gvir.

[A youthful Ben Gvir shows off a Cadillac hood ornament he claimed to have taken from Yitzhak Rabin's car shortly before the Israeli peacemaker was assassinated. Convicted of terrorism charges, Ben Gvir is today Israel's minister of national security.]

 

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Hamas says Russia "our closest friend"

"We received a list of citizens who have dual citizenship" with Russia, a senior Hamas official has said when discussing hostages in Gaza.

www.newsweek.com

"From the Russian side, through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, we received a list of citizens who have dual citizenship," Marzouk said. "We are very attentive to this list and will process it carefully, because we look at Russia as our closest friend," he said, according to RIA.

Hamas delenda est

 

[halfcenturyup]

No. I think you can render Hamas or any terror organization practically ineffective. It's like someone with HIV who has taken drugs to suppress the virus into remission. So much so that you can't even detect the HIV in blood samples.

That, you haven't gotten rid of the virus entirely is wholely irrelevant. What's relevant is that it's practically ineffective. And that is achievable with a serious attack.

Terrorist are not superhuman or special. Let's stop ascribing nonhuman qualities to them.

I agree with you on targeted assassination in Qatar. But like I said, a multifaceted approach is best and most effective.

:) Kudus for your analogies, but I am still not buying that you can blast Hamas out of existence. You can buy some time before they re-group, or worse, something far worse rises from the ashes, but that is no actual solution.

 

[halfcenturyup]

The sociopath terrorist bastards doing what they do with impunity:



Where are all the bastions of morality and ethics that stand with Israel with their condemnation of these terrorist attacks?

Of course, to those who say the violence in Gaza will stop when Hamas is removed, this rather proves the contrary.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

3,195 children killed in Gaza in just three weeks has surpassed the annual number of children killed across the world's conflict zones since 2019 - Save The Children

70% killed so far in Gaza are women & children - UN

Let that sink in for a minute!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I am just listening to the BBC and the reporter said that in previous conflicts the number of deaths reported by the Gaza health authority have proven to be accurate, when independently audited afterwards. There are also at least a 1,000 people missing. It’s all very sad.

There was gruesome news yesterday about the murder of the German woman kidnapped from the rave. On a brighter note a kidnapped soldier has been saved.

Why don’t the posters who tell us that the U.K. turns a blind eye to anti-semitism mention the increase in Islamophobia. Until you do it’s very difficult for me to believe you are anti racist campaigners you seem to think you are. We live in a Country where families going on peace marches are labelled hate campaigners by our Home Secretary. Where the leaders of our 2 main political parties find it impossible to empathise with the 8,000 plus Gazans who’ve been killed so far.

Hamas and the Israeli Government are responsible for this. If you can’t see that it’s about time you stopped calling everyone whose views you disagree with racists. But of course the Gazans are “collateral damage”.