VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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Grass is always greener. And memories are short.

Fans of every league that has VAR, yearn for the good old days before it.

Fans of every league that hasn’t VAR, acknowledge it’s shit but want it anyway because they think it’s not as shit as what they currently have.
 
stonerblue said:
We should've had another pen when Haaland was fouled.
Antony should have had 3 reds.
Football with var, anything goes
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Have to say it's difficult to keep up with the arguments for VAR: is it a lot of football is subjective so VAR is OK when it seems to make a mistake / be inconsistent, or is it a lot of football is subjective so we need VAR when the referee makes a mistake / is inconsistent?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Our first goal should never have stood, Soucek clearly pulling keeper back.

Hannibal challenge should have been a red.

Probably a lot more in tonight’s other games.

Football without VAR, anything goes.

* just seen highlight at Chelsea, Blackburn should have had a penalty, handball from Gallagher. Hey ho.
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I haven't seen it but I suspect yer just being generous. If the ref sez goal, it's a goal! The Arse just have to take it as bit of rough, a turn on the roundabout!
 
Stephen230 said:
Grass is always greener. And memories are short.

Fans of every league that has VAR, yearn for the good old days before it.

Fans of every league that hasn’t VAR, acknowledge it’s shit but want it anyway because they think it’s not as shit as what they currently have.
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VAR should enhance the arbitration of any game. I think we only have VAR because of the clamour of fans who have also watched other ball sports. I think the arbitrators would prefer not to have it, and they have done their best to maintain similar outcomes as though they didn't have it. How many times have the LotG been massaged when the 'honest mistakes' are brought to light. Tierney was never gonna give that pen on Sunday!

VAR is a shit show in football because of the way it is used. I suspect that most of the moaning re VAR would vanish were we to adopt a 'rugby' version! Something of which PiGMOL seemed to be scared shitless. But hey, what can football learn from rugby? Ans: how to arbitrate a game so that the result reflects what's happened on the pitch!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Where's the proof that football is less popular now because of VAR ?
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Where's the proof of your oft-quoted statement that;
"Average attendances and global viewing figures have increased since the introduction of VAR"?
Particularly in relation to viewing figures.
 
danielwood5 said:
Where's the proof of your oft-quoted statement that;
"Average attendances and global viewing figures have increased since the introduction of VAR"?
Particularly in relation to viewing figures.
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so , the referee and var deemed that rodri would of got to the ball if he hadn't been fouled , if that is the case why wasnt the united player sent off, he made no attempt to play the ball only to hold a player who would of had a goal scoring opportunity
 
BlueHammer85 said:
www.chaseyoursport.com

Facts about viewership records in Premier League 2022-23

Here we take a look at the facts about viewership records in Premier League 2022-23. The 2022–23 season set some of the biggest league-wide viewing records ever.
www.chaseyoursport.com www.chaseyoursport.com

www.premierleague.com

Opening weekend brings record audiences

Sky Sports report a 40 per cent increase in viewers while new mark set in US for streaming
www.premierleague.com www.premierleague.com

www.sportspromedia.com

Premier League opening weekend viewership up 40% as 8m tune into Sky Sports - SportsPro

The five games aired by UK pay-TV broadcaster Sky Sports saw more than 2.9 million females tune in, as NBC also scored strong numbers in the US.
www.sportspromedia.com www.sportspromedia.com

www.fifa.com

FIFA World Cup delivering record-breaking TV audience numbers

FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022™ is continuing to engage TV audiences around the world with record-breaking numbers across multiple markets.
www.fifa.com www.fifa.com

www.broadcastnow.co.uk

Monday Night Football reaches highest audience in over ten years

Sky Sports the winner from Manchester United's surprise victory over Liverpool
www.broadcastnow.co.uk www.broadcastnow.co.uk
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do you have any stats for match going supporters and the way they are treated with var decisions ? all you have shown is tv viewing figures, people who know whats going on and why var is being used
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Average attendances and global viewing figures have increased since the introduction of VAR
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That could have something to do with football selling its backside more and more, I don't care what happens in Bogota on a wet Wednesday night but here where it counts for me.

VAR is shit mate, it'll be robots playing next ;)
 
Sir peace frog said:
do you have any stats for match going supporters and the way they are treated with var decisions ? all you have shown is tv viewing figures, people who know whats going on and why var is being used
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So I can prove average attendances and global viewing figures in the PL have increased since the introduction of VAR - why not just say ‘ok, yes you was right on that’

If you personally don’t like VAR, that’s fine , that’s your opinion. I don’t like the game without VAR. That’s my opinion.

As for ‘killed the game’ and ‘football is finished’ then that’s just laughable hyperbole.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
So I can prove average attendances and global viewing figures in the PL have increased since the introduction of VAR - why not just say ‘ok, yes you was right on that’

If you personally don’t like VAR, that’s fine , that’s your opinion. I don’t like the game without VAR. That’s my opinion.

As for ‘killed the game’ and ‘football is finished’ then that’s just laughable hyperbole.
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So are you claiming var has resulted in record attendances for West Ham, tottenham and City?

Also, how many games were shown live pre-var and how many are broadcast post-var?
 
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stonerblue said:
So are you claiming var has resulted in record attendances for West Ham, tottenham and City?
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I argue against

‘VAR has killed the game’
‘VAR has ruined football’

Since its introduction attendances have not decreased nor viewing figures.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
So I can prove average attendances and global viewing figures in the PL have increased since the introduction of VAR - why not just say ‘ok, yes you was right on that’

If you personally don’t like VAR, that’s fine , that’s your opinion. I don’t like the game without VAR. That’s my opinion.

As for ‘killed the game’ and ‘football is finished’ then that’s just laughable hyperbole.
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Yes you can prove that viewing figures have risen since it's introduction.....SINCE not BECAUSE!
If you don't already, you should work in politics ;)
I started giving up watching games halfway through as soon as a crap var decision was made, it's so bad now I don't bother watching any game, even watching the goals on YouTube is becoming teeth itching.
 
southamptonblue said:
Yes you can prove that viewing figures have risen since it's introduction.....SINCE not BECAUSE!
If you don't already, you should work in politics ;)
I started giving up watching games halfway through as soon as a crap var decision was made, it's so bad now I don't bother watching any game, even watching the goals on YouTube is becoming teeth itching.
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Causation and correlation aren’t his strong points.
 
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