Well, no - they attacked Iraq and ignored the Saudi involvement.
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Israel-Palestine Conflict
- Thread starter The blue phantom
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A sovereign state that was a terrorist organisation...It’s not as bad at all. One is a terrorist organisation and the other is a sovereign state who should be above all this.
It’s fucking shameful.
I think Israel accepted that a long time ago. And it suits them. They'd got the animals under their thumbs, either walled up in Gaza or subject to 24 hour surveillance and harassment in the West Bank.The reality though mate is that Hamas can never "be removed". There will always be a Hamas or a Real Hamas or a Provisional Hamas or whatever, so long as a significant proportion of Palestinians are not happy with their lot. Which means forever, if Israel carry on as they are.
Maybe they just have to accept being permanently at war, forever.
The average Israeli could then carry on their daily life much as we do.
Until that is they were reminded that treating people like animals has consequences.
Good grief. "Moved to safety" = ethnic cleansing.Israel has just faced its 9/11 and at the same time it was caught with its pants down. There is literally zero chance that they'll talk to Hamas. The only reason for Hamas to come to the table anyway is because Hamas eventually will want a ceasefire so that it can rearm, that is never going to be acceptable to Israel.
Israel would perhaps talk to the Palestinians in order to assist with their safety and wellbeing but certainly not via Hamas whose only goal with regard to the Palestinian population is to use them as a shield. Unfortunately the Palestinians have no voice whatsoever because of Hamas, what if all they want actually is to be safe?
Hamas needs to be removed, it's the only real option for the Palestinians and it's the only option for Israel. Until this is done then I still think that the Palestinian population should be moved to safety away from danger out of Gaza where they can be given aid. We in the west must then hold Israel to account on what happens next.
Anyone who disagrees with the above is just trying to self-justify a bizarre reality which will never happen which is a war where Hamas can do whatever it likes whilst Israel can't.
mancity2012_eamo
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Apparently they were all strapped to the front of Hamas operatives though.Would you have the hostages found at the expense of, Let's say 50'000 Palestinian lives? We're already well over 10'000 with nearly half of those.Children.
mancity2012_eamo
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It would stop the risk of them being bombed.Surely a cease fire would help that no ?
trueblue1972
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Excellent get behind the idea thenIt would stop the risk of them being bombed.
halfcenturyup
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You're the one who mentioned the law, not me. Just admit you don't know and decided to stick it in to fluff up your opinion. As for the common law bit, crikey.
He was right, though.
mancity2012_eamo
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We know they both lie.Hamas yet again trying to tell the world that no innocent Israeli men, women or children where targeted or killed on October 7th.
It’s as bad as Israel saying no innocent men, women or children are killed during their bombings.
mancity2012_eamo
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I totally am.Excellent get behind the idea then