PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Think some people are being a bit harsh on city to be honest.

I assume city wanted not just us to succeed but everyone because, if you’re not and idiot, you’d realize that if everyone in the league is successful the league gets more money and everyone is richer. Sadly I don’t think city realized at the time just how contemptible Liverpool are and how bitter, twisted and selfish the Americans are and they probably were being nice to us back then because they did don’t realize how much we’d be upsetting the status quo.

Don’t forget as well, Liverpool never admitted guilt, and the PL weren’t interested in investigating. and our choices boiled down to allowing Liverpool to get away with it and accepting our place below them forever, or kicking off about it only for it to be immediately scrubbed by the media and ignored forever (like the van dicky tapping up, and the murders) but city obviously made a bit of a stink so were offered the money, which they took at the time to placate but also to demonstrate we wouldn’t take things lying down. And I imagine that was the end to any ideas that we’d get along with them in any capacity.

Plus the whole “why didn’t city change the passwords?” Is a whole argument that has no end, why didn’t we? But why didn’t they be honest and not use them, or indeed when they found out they had them, why didn’t they tell city instead of immediately use it to steal data? My theory is they were pushed by their new employees to take a chance and try to log in. Hence they were since promoted and I assume a huge bonus.

The question I have is why, if they are, are city bringing it up now? Could be a play to push the premier league into actually reviewing it, which if they didn’t and we were right would be an absolutely damning indictment of the PL and Liverpool when their integrity is under heavy heavy scrutiny.

As well as this It might not even be city who are leaking/pushing it, there seems to be a few leaks coming out in general, this could just be another in the line, with more the come out.

Or of course it could just be a bit of winding People up by city to prompt them into making yet another mistake in their handling of our case.

One thing I do not think it has any relevance on is how city feel the case is going.
 
Lots of people in work getting giddy about us having trophies taken off us, huge points deductions & numerous relegations.
Fuck me, it really shows how much we are hated and not just by fans of the redshirts, its all football fans want to talk about with me, gets fucking boring real quick
 
Lots of people in work getting giddy about us having trophies taken off us, huge points deductions & numerous relegations.
Fuck me, it really shows how much we are hated and not just by fans of the redshirts, its all football fans want to talk about with me, gets fucking boring real quick

Have you asked them what they will do when non of the above happens? And if they. An actually tell you what City have done wrong by how much in value? That stops then in their tracks.
 
I think it is nothing more than stoking the fires.

No chance that its a coincidence that after this case starts ramping up and Everton get a 10pt deduction, a story comes out about Defoe for example.

City and Everton probably in cahoots, just throwing small bones to the media to get things stirring.

Up and down the country, fans are now talking about City, Everton, Spurs and there will be plenty more to come I reckon.

The Athletic have already written a huge report (again!) about the Newcastle take over and using the FoI act to get emails to prove conversations etc. The more fires the premier league have to fight the better imo.

The last bit of news on it is from end of 2019 claiming a settlement, and then early 2020 claiming the investigation had been closed.

If thete are fires being stoked, it is limited to here only. Doubt anyone else is talking about it.
 
Lots of people in work getting giddy about us having trophies taken off us, huge points deductions & numerous relegations.
Fuck me, it really shows how much we are hated and not just by fans of the redshirts, its all football fans want to talk about with me, gets fucking boring real quick
Lemmings and the power of the media is a bad concoction
 
The last bit of news on it is from end of 2019 claiming a settlement, and then early 2020 claiming the investigation had been closed.

If thete are fires being stoked, it is limited to here only. Doubt anyone else is talking about it.

When was the first bit of news? Isn't that when the SOL runs from?

And it was an FA investigation wasn't it? The PL has been known to re-litigate others' decisions. Quite recently, in fact.
 
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We’ve been doing this all wrong.
Forget the fancy pants lawyers the scousers have sussed it : )
I must admit that I'm impressed with some of the things the Everton fans are doing around this. Rather than just moaning about it, their fanbase has been totally galvanised into action
 
From (admittedly dodgy) memory, wasn't that the game where the guy ripped up his season ticket on the pitch at the end?
Yep think it was.

Theres was a few odd incidents that season. None odder than the couple that ran on the pitch streaking.

I say streaking, they just took there bottoms off! Weird as
 
If , and if its a big if, they somehow find us guilty and properly throw the book at us, i hope the club really come onside with the fans and create a ‘them and us’ atmosphere.

The club have rarely backed the fans. The joint statement with the dipper cunts after they slung stuff down at blues at the league cup game pissed me off more than i can say.
 
Absolutely no way would City get relegated. Think about it, Juventus got caught bribing referees and that was a relegation offence (plus they lost some titles they'd won). If (big IF) City are guilty it is of 'bending' rules rather than fraud and I think in that case a points deduction and maybe a season out of Europe is more likely. Their alleged offences are nowhere near as severe as what Juventus got found guilty of.

I just want to reiterate this is a big IF, I have no idea whatsoever (like everyone else here) if City are guilty of anything, I've no dog in this fight as a Gooner but I wanted to state that it would be illogical to relegate City IF they were found guilty (bear in mind there are 115 charges to go through) given the precedent of Juventus, also it makes no commercial sense for the PL to do it given City's status as a crown jewel for the PL's ability to monetise its product around the world (let's face it, the PL aren't selling TV rights to Thailand because the locals want to see Carlton Morris score a deflected goal for Luton, they want to pay to see the very best players play amazing football).

Also I'd take no solace in City getting done - winning the league in a season where the main rival had a bunch of points deducted would always have an asterix against that achievement. I guess Man United fans would happily take winning the trophy that way but I'd not view it as a big achievement if my side won the league by finishing 10 points ahead of City where they had 16 points deducted. It would be totally hollow.

But to sum up, City aren't getting relegated for this even if they were found guilty. It isn't really in anyone's interest to do it from a commercial perspective, it would devalue the PL massively.
Whilst I agree with your point, you have to consider the influence of United and Liverpool who either have their own former staff in the Premier League, UEFA or in the case of the Premier League can sanction senior appointments. They’re also effectively holding a Super League gun at the Premier League head. It’s almost like a “if it’s not my train set I’ll break it” attitude. Common sense goes out of the window. They honestly believe the footballing world want to see United v Bayern or Liverpool v Barcelona every week. Maybe they’re right but that’s when I take up fishing.
 
From (admittedly dodgy) memory, wasn't that the game where the guy ripped up his season ticket on the pitch at the end?
I have 3 memories of that game, the guy doing that who wasn't tackled by stewards as he'd had probably ripped their heads off, a City fan Bury player celebrating scoring and with me for some reason being in the fucking Umbro stand 2 lads constantly rolling splifs, sparking them up and sending them down the rows.
 
Think some people are being a bit harsh on city to be honest.

I assume city wanted not just us to succeed but everyone because, if you’re not and idiot, you’d realize that if everyone in the league is successful the league gets more money and everyone is richer. Sadly I don’t think city realized at the time just how contemptible Liverpool are and how bitter, twisted and selfish the Americans are and they probably were being nice to us back then because they did don’t realize how much we’d be upsetting the status quo.

Don’t forget as well, Liverpool never admitted guilt, and the PL weren’t interested in investigating. and our choices boiled down to allowing Liverpool to get away with it and accepting our place below them forever, or kicking off about it only for it to be immediately scrubbed by the media and ignored forever (like the van dicky tapping up, and the murders) but city obviously made a bit of a stink so were offered the money, which they took at the time to placate but also to demonstrate we wouldn’t take things lying down. And I imagine that was the end to any ideas that we’d get along with them in any capacity.

Plus the whole “why didn’t city change the passwords?” Is a whole argument that has no end, why didn’t we? But why didn’t they be honest and not use them, or indeed when they found out they had them, why didn’t they tell city instead of immediately use it to steal data? My theory is they were pushed by their new employees to take a chance and try to log in. Hence they were since promoted and I assume a huge bonus.

The question I have is why, if they are, are city bringing it up now? Could be a play to push the premier league into actually reviewing it, which if they didn’t and we were right would be an absolutely damning indictment of the PL and Liverpool when their integrity is under heavy heavy scrutiny.

As well as this It might not even be city who are leaking/pushing it, there seems to be a few leaks coming out in general, this could just be another in the line, with more the come out.

Or of course it could just be a bit of winding People up by city to prompt them into making yet another mistake in their handling of our case.

One thing I do not think it has any relevance on is how city feel the case is going.
Of course it’s a windup. The hacking case was closed years ago and won’t be revisited.

Quite a poor taste windup as well - as some on here have completely missed the ‘joke’.
 
Yesterday morning about 4:30 Tony Evans (Scouse journalist) referred to Manchester City's transgressions.No mention of 'alleged ',does this make it slanderous?
Are Talk sport abetting him by publishing his slander?
 

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