Blue Moon Playlist Review Club - Season 2 - Episode 32 - threespires - Could have been a Contender (pg 472)

[GornikDaze]

Much too fey for you Gornik, but there's a very good Everything But The Girl song about her - Ugly Little Dreams.

@Black&White&BlueMoon Town a great theme this, way too many to choose from though.

I was going to go for a Boney M song but I’ll leave that for another week ;)

 

[Coatigan]

What's the cut-off, timewise? Where they stop being 'historical'. Presumably they hae to be deid. But is there a latest date to aim for?

 

[threespires]

I was going to go for a Boney M song but I’ll leave that for another week ;)

Shame, I could have done the accompanying twirling dance.

 

[Black&White&BlueMoon Town]

What's the cut-off, timewise? Where they stop being 'historical'. Presumably they hae to be deid. But is there a latest date to aim for?

There's no cut-off. If we can Google them and they're famous enough to have made a song, then they're historical.

They can still be alive too, no rules about being dead or alive (so don't tell me and Weezer we've lost 'Mr. Springsteen'!)

No latest date to aim for either. Thanks!

 

[stoneblue]

Michelangelo - Emmylou Harris

 

[Mancitydoogle]

Thanks for all your contributions to ‘Water’

My faves that I hadn’t heard before

Crow Moses
Billy Clyro
My Morning Jacket I have a few albums but not this one
Greenleaf never heard of these but will investigate more
Manchester Orchestra
Foals

Ones I knew and pleased to hear again.
Frightened Rabbit
Free
John Prine
Grandaddy
Soundgarden
Pixies
The Jam
Jackson Browne Surprised JB not been nominated on the album thread
Band of Horses
Lucinda Williams

Sam Baker’s back story is worth checking out, how he overcame adversity to become a great singer songwriter, it’s probably the reason for his unusual voice.

 

[stoneblue]

My highlights from the "Water" playlist, so many good tracks!

My top 5 tracks (in no particular order)

1. “Harlem River Blues” - Justin Townes Earle
2. “Water Mains” – Crow Moses
3. "River Runs" - Rod Picott,
4. “Blackwater” - Rain Tree Crow
5. “The Ocean” - Manchester Orchestra

Other tracks that I particularly enjoyed
"Bread & Water" - Ryan Bingham
“Sealand” - OMD
“Holy Water” – Biffy Clyro
“Swim Until You Can't See Land" - Frightened Rabbit
“Down to the Well” - Kevin Gordon’
“Waves” - Portugal. The Man
“A Knife in the Ocean” - Foals
“The Ocean” - Dar Williams
"Waves" - Sam Baker. Must admit, wasn't keen at first but it grew on me after several listens.

Other observations
“River” – Joni Mitchell (Tracey Thorn), good version although I prefer Sarah McLachlan's cover
"Rain in the Summertime" - The Alarm. I had the album that featured this track on cassette tape! Great to sing along to in the car.

 

[Coatigan]

I know you're coming in the night like a thief. But I've had some time alone to hone my lying technique.
I know you think that I'm someone you can trust. But I'm scared I'll get scared and I swear I'll try to nail you back up.
So do you think that we could work out a sign? So I'll know it's you and that it's over so I won't even try.
I know you'll come for the people like me
But we all got wood and nails
We turn, turn out hate in factories
Yeah, we all got wood and nails
We turn, turn out hate in factories.

Jesus Christ - Brand New

 

[BimboBob]

I know you're coming in the night like a thief. But I've had some time alone to hone my lying technique.
I know you think that I'm someone you can trust. But I'm scared I'll get scared and I swear I'll try to nail you back up.
So do you think that we could work out a sign? So I'll know it's you and that it's over so I won't even try.
I know you'll come for the people like me
But we all got wood and nails
We turn, turn out hate in factories
Yeah, we all got wood and nails
We turn, turn out hate in factories.

Jesus Christ - Brand New

He said historical ;)

 

[BimboBob]

One of the most fascinating historical figures ever, brought to life by both her trial transcript and that of the subsequent appellate trial. Heady mixture of facts and subsequent mythology make her one of the most compelling saints for me.

Could build a playlist just for her (Cohen, OMD x2, BOC, Arcade Fire amongst others).

Cause i'm quite poppy, of the OMD two I'd have gone for Maid of Orleans but I like this one a lot too.

The truth? Born a peasant, decided to go to help the war effort, managed to worm her way into high society and war. Whether she actually did any fighting is subjective but she certainly raised moral and appeared on the front line in a few places. Probably the best thing to happen to her from a France perspective was to be burnt at the stake turning her into a martyr and a figurehead as she was on a huge losing streak after early success.

Ignore all the visions and tall tales. That's the church and it's lovely propaganda.

 

[Coatigan]

He said historical ;)

Think there is no dubiety over his existence as a historical person, all else aside. Think that is widely agreed by scholars.

 

[BimboBob]

Think there is no dubiety over his existence as a historical person, all else aside. Think that is widely agreed by scholars.

It would be if there was actual mention of him at the time rather than writings made quite a few years after. Very fastidious the Romans. Wrote everything down. Apart from anything to do with Jesus...

A debate for another time...

 

[threespires]

The truth? Born a peasant, decided to go to help the war effort, managed to worm her way into high society and war. Whether she actually did any fighting is subjective but she certainly raised moral and appeared on the front line in a few places. Probably the best thing to happen to her from a France perspective was to be burnt at the stake turning her into a martyr and a figurehead as she was on a huge losing streak after early success.

Ignore all the visions and tall tales. That's the church and it's lovely propaganda.

Are you telling me I can't rely on Ingrid Bergman's acting as a historical source?? Bummer.

She's been coopted for all manner of causes and books written about her from all sorts of angles including mapping her story on to modern understanding of psychiatric illnesses. For all sorts of reasons she continues to fascinate people.

 

[BimboBob]

Are you telling me I can't rely on Ingrid Bergman's acting as a historical source?? Bummer.

She's been coopted for all manner of causes and books written about her from all sorts of angles including mapping her story on to modern understanding of psychiatric illnesses. For all sorts of reasons she continues to fascinate people.

The same could be said for Arthur. Although proving he existed is never going to happen. A lovely myth probably based on a warlord and then, like Jesus, words were spoken, things were written and booom...the man, the myth. But, like Jesus, words were written quite a few years after the events. By word of mouth. A game of he said, she said.

Even in the middle ages only the clergy and top bananas could read, let along write. So history is kind of skewed. By the church/ winners. That kind of agenda is very hard to break into. A bit easier with Joan but there is still a hell of a lot of flim flam written and believed about her.

The Jesus thing blew up out of all proportion. Was there a Prophet? Sure. There were hundreds of them. Did he do miracles? No. But it's a very good narrative to fight the invaders. Based on someone? Definitely. Called Jesus? Not in any 'of the time' texts.

 

[OB1]

Rick Wakeman: “Catherine of Aragon”

 

[threespires]

Rick Wakeman: “Catherine of Aragon”

Are you going to do one wife/track a day? :-)

 

[Mancitydoogle]

Are you telling me I can't rely on Ingrid Bergman's acting as a historical source?? Bummer.

She's been coopted for all manner of causes and books written about her from all sorts of angles including mapping her story on to modern understanding of psychiatric illnesses. For all sorts of reasons she continues to fascinate people.

Next you’ll be saying the ‘Wee Donkey’ was a mythical creature.

 

[RobMCFC]

"Save Me Joe Louis" - Curtis Eller's American Circus

 

[Coatigan]

The same could be said for Arthur. Although proving he existed is never going to happen. A lovely myth probably based on a warlord and then, like Jesus, words were spoken, things were written and booom...the man, the myth. But, like Jesus, words were written quite a few years after the events. By word of mouth. A game of he said, she said.

Even in the middle ages only the clergy and top bananas could read, let along write. So history is kind of skewed. By the church/ winners. That kind of agenda is very hard to break into. A bit easier with Joan but there is still a hell of a lot of flim flam written and believed about her.

The Jesus thing blew up out of all proportion. Was there a Prophet? Sure. There were hundreds of them. Did he do miracles? No. But it's a very good narrative to fight the invaders. Based on someone? Definitely. Called Jesus? Not in any 'of the time' texts.

I wonder how many I can find that you could say that about.

 

[Coatigan]

"the last great American Indian chief to die free and absolutely unconquered. When several members of his family were captured, tortured, and hanged by the U.S. Cavalry, Cochise declared war on the entire Southwest.

Cochise the avenger, fearless and resolute, attacked everything in his path with an unbridled fury." a bit like me on one or two of the main forum threads then..

Cochise - Audioslave