North Stand Construction Discussion

bluesince76 said:
Totally agree.

Last time was different - the country was just out of a World War, it would have been odd in those circumstances to leave them without a ground, as the bomb could just have result have destroyed Maine Rd.

This time, they've allowed their stadium to deteriorate, have made no attempt to buy the land required to improve it and have used the profits to buy shite players and pay off old managers.

I don't like letting them in OUR stadium for the derby and we won't need their money if we're paying our players League One wages, so it's a no from me.
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Thought they took Neville to court over building his hotel near OT?
 
jrb said:
Slightly off topic.

There’s a thread on SSC-MCR titled Manchester United (Old Trafford) | Framework.

Most if not all of the posters posting on the thread are United fans. (some of them are getting a bit giddy about the idea of a new stadium)

It’s mainly about Old Trafford, the stadium, and whether is should be redeveloped or whether it should be demolished and a new stadium built close by. (now Ratcliffe has bought 1/4 of United from the Glazers)

Recently the conversation has gone on to City allowing United to use/share the Etihad whilst a new stadium is built on the current Old Trafford site or close to the Old Trafford site/footprint.

A redeveloped 62,000 capacity Etihad, including a hotel, 3000 capacity fanzone, etc, and what it will have to offer United and their fans is a very tempting proposition for United and something they would be interested in, if they could ‘agree a deal with City’, MCC, and Sports England to use the Etihad stadium for 2-3 seasons whilst a new stadium is built.

Would City be interested in letting United share and use the Etihad knowing the additional rental and match day revenue it would generate for City could run into £100’s millions over 2-3 seasons.

There is a valid argument a new stadium will never be built because the Glazers and Ratcliffe will not fund it, instead they would rather redevelop Old Trafford piecemeal.

Trying to put my blue allegiances aside, and the fact that I used to post on SSC-MCR, I would be totally against the idea for various reasons.

What are your views on the matter?( try and keep it civil ;-) )

The last 2 posts on the thread atm.

It’s A Muffin (post)

City lent them their stadium before and United repaid them by allowing a banner mocking City's lack of success. I doubt the Etihad is an option unless it's extremely lucrative and Everton is probably too far.

Issac Newell (reply)

I think City will be leaned on by the Premier League, the Police and the council. Authorities may look less favourably with regards to concerts etc. if City refuse, which they won't as they will be compensated. In the days when City last lent Utd Maine Rd, fans generally followed both teams.
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I'll keep it as civil as possible... They can fuck right off.
To be absolutely honest, I would expect any proper rag supporter to think exactly the same.

They can use Salford City.
 
I would happily let the rags use our ground. £10m a match, plus we keep all income from bars, hospitality, car parking, etc. They obviously pay for the police, stewards, bar staff, cleaners - everything.
 
Apologies.

Haven’t had time to post the pictures tonight. Will definitely post the pictures in the morning.(up early as a new mattress is being delivered)

Screen grab from the drone video Lexstar posted showing the 3 sample trees that have been planted in-front of the East stand. I prefer the tree on the left.

From that view, expanding the East stand would be difficult and expensive for a limited amount of extra seats.

I like the spirals. They give the Etihad stadium a unique stadium identity

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United and their fans are active at improving the atmosphere at Old Trafford. Whilst we still have no idea what City’s final plans for the new North stand home end will be.

Where are our club led initiatives at improving the atmosphere at the Etihad when the North stand is expanded? All we hear from the club is a wall of silence on that matter. And constant references from the directors about improving match day revenues and nothing else.

Never mind just talking to City Matters, 1894, and selected fan groups, talk to the wider City fan base via the OS. Let us know what your plans are for improving the atmosphere ‘in conjunction with the fans’ when the North stand is expanded. As it is you‘re not telling us anything.

United.

Another significant change is the replacement of executive seating in the Stretford End and reallocating the area to ordinary season ticket holders. Applications will be accepted from existing season ticket holders, and 500 seats will be reserved for fans aged 16-25 with a special ‘youth season ticket’ priced at £16 ($20) per game. United said that the initiative, which had been planned from last year, aims to enhance the atmosphere and support for the team.

TRA, a United fan group that sits in the Stretford End above the tunnel, will now be behind the goal in former executive seats, occupying 2,700. The TRA’s old section of 1,800 will now be occupied by youth tickets and season ticket holders who go to away games, with applications open.

United also plan to expand safe standing areas by adding 1,300 in the first tier of the North-West quadrant, known as the Sir Alex Ferguson stand. With this expansion, over 10 per cent of the general admission capacity and all four corners of Old Trafford will have safe standing areas.
 
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Above.

From next season United will have 4,500 singers in and next to the Stratford End.

We have 1 official singing block, block/section 115, mixed with people who sing, sing some times, and don’t sing at all.

As for the other singers and potential singers, they are spread all over the stadium in small pockets of singers or as (brave) individual singers in areas of the ground where people don’t sing.
 
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jrb said:
Above.

From next season United will have 4,500 singers in and next to the Stratford End.

We have 1 official singing block, block/section 115, mixed with people who sing, sing some times, and don’t sing at all.

As for the other singers and potential singers, they are spread all over the stadium in small pockets of singers or as (brave) individual singers in areas of the ground where people don’t sing.
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They still get away with flagrantly flouting the Premier League rules about pitch level seats for away fans and the provision of video screens. God forbid they have to spend money on compliance, rather than squeezing in as many seats as possible with legroom that would even make Ryanair embarrassed
 
LongsightM13 said:
They still get away with flagrantly flouting the Premier League rules about pitch level seats for away fans and the provision of video screens. God forbid they have to spend money on compliance, rather than squeezing in as many seats as possible with legroom that would even make Ryanair embarrassed
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That maybe true? And I take your point. But United are leaving City behind when it comes to trying to improve the match day atmosphere.
 
jrb said:
That maybe true? And I take your point. But United are leaving City behind when it comes to trying to improve the match day atmosphere.
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Yep. And we all know there’s going to be corporate stuck smack bang in the middle of what should be a dedicated City end.
Still irritating that they, the cult and Newcastle are allowed to flout the various PL rules simply because they don’t want to pay for the necessary works. Especially as they’ve had years to sort it out
 
HelloCity said:
Can we stop posting about United or at least keep that to the atmosphere thread?
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If you don’t want to read what I post scroll past it. It will take you a second. A shorter amount of time than it took you to write that and to post it. Eventually the thread will go back to topic.

It’s important! It highlights the differences between what the 2 clubs are doing to improve the atmospheres at both grounds. The atmosphere at the Etihad is an important part of the expanded North stand expansion and this thread.

It irks me that United, apologies for bringing the up again, are publicly working with their fans to improve the atmosphere at Old Trafford by ‘implementing positive fan led initiatives’, whilst City are saying nothing publicly about improving the atmosphere at the Etihad via the North stand expansion, but are publicly saying the Etihad stadium is constraint and the club will have to find different ways of driving match day revenues because of that, ie, more hospitality areas(at the front of NSL2), etc. The club comments aside, we all know what the PA shows, which isn’t promising, but there’s no need to go into that again.
 
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