North Stand Construction Discussion

blueparrot said:
I don’t disagree with that, but would those in the current singing blocks in th South stand relocate to the second tier of the North. Maybe if encouraged they would ,but don’t know how willing they’d be myself?
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You have to incentivise it like mad to overcome initially inertia and scepticism. Also get the “right” people on board with it too. It needs to have a domino effect. It can’t just be put up on sale with little fanfare like the last extension was.

Bold decisions need to be made here.
 
Keeper! said:
I still don't understand why you think corporate/hospitality means less atmosphere, that's not always the case.

Sections like the Wembley club are a joke but in my experience a lot of the corporate section of grounds have plenty of atmosphere.
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I’d like to know which hospitality sections at city or elsewhere have plenty of atmosphere? Or you can compare them to singing sections or home ends.

I’ve been in ss2 plenty of times this season and the vast majority of the time most people are sat down and we have a situation where ss1 and ss3 make noise, but ss2 doesn’t.

It’s a home end, why would you want a hospitality section right at the front? Imagine the yellow wall at dortmund with that - it wouldn’t happen.

Also if you create hospitality seats it means expensive ticket prices, which will price out large numbers of people, in particular young adults.

We already have enough hospitality in the ground. Make north stand level 2 decent pricing and focus on the atmosphere. There will be a sky bar and plenty of corporate options with the expansion as it is.
 
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blueparrot said:
I don’t disagree with that, but would those in the current singing blocks in th South stand relocate to the second tier of the North. Maybe if encouraged they would ,but don’t know how willing they’d be myself?
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I think a large number could move. I also think there are lot of fans around the ground who join in with chants and potentially want to move into ss1, but can’t get season tickets there. Individual tickets maybe, but not as a group of people.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
Didsbury Dave and Supercity 88 are so spot on with their comments about the North Stand an "Atmosphere Action Group" is needed now, I could help with setting up a Facebook, Twitter, etc, and emails. JRB is right with his comments what he is trying to say is simple it would be like shoving the tunnel club in the Yellow Wall. The club needs to listen to people like Dave but what are doing is thinking cash first, instead of atmosphere first. If you mention the atmosphere to people outside city first thing they will say is about the empty seats etc, it's like the execs at City are not reading the room as you say.
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With all due respect, it is absolutely Nothing like shoving the Tunnel Club in the Yellow Wall.

They may one day do that, who knows. But the proposed GA+ is nothing like at all.
 
As I’ve posted previously, there are two large side blocks on NSL2 that could house 1 or 2 singing sections. Even safe standing seats. People standing in one or both of those side blocks wouldn’t interfere with the central blocks. The blocks and seats could be priced cheaper because of the location on NSL2, and on the understanding that people who who apply to go into those blocks ‘have to stand’, want to sing, and want to create an atmosphere. Banners could be hung from the railings at the front of the blocks, and attached to the side walls, to give the 2 side blocks a singing section feel and look.

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Lexstar!

I wasn’t trying to say that. :-/

‘JRB is right with his comments what he is trying to say is simple it would be like shoving the tunnel club in the Yellow Wall’

Even Soriano couldn’t pull that one off if he became CEO of Dortmund.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
You have to incentivise it like mad to overcome initially inertia and scepticism. Also get the “right” people on board with it too. It needs to have a domino effect. It can’t just be put up on sale with little fanfare like the last extension was.

Bold decisions need to be made here.
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Why though? If you read the reports on the waiting lists and the demand, it is not like any bold decisions need made to incentivise anyone.

Offer people the chane to move there. If they don't take it up, on sale it goes down the list.

NOT saying that is the right thing to do, just that it's not like the commercial success of this hinges on incentives or initial losses to get people in.
 
Coatigan said:
Why though? If you read the reports on the waiting lists and the demand, it is not like any bold decisions need made to incentivise anyone.

Offer people the chane to move there. If they don't take it up, on sale it goes down the list.

NOT saying that is the right thing to do, just that it's not like the commercial success of this hinges on incentives or initial losses to get people in.
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I’m not talking about commercial success. I’m talking about it’s success in becoming the main singing area/end.
 
He has taken some pictures but they are really poor quality. You can’t make much out.

Darren Hughes - Territory Sales Manager for Central Manchester at Breedon Group plc

As one door closes another one opens.... we are reaching the end of the road on the Piling Works at the Etihad Stadium.... pre start meeting this afternoon for the next phase of works on here as we gain an understanding of the service end quality expectations from our customer.

 
Coatigan said:
Why though? If you read the reports on the waiting lists and the demand, it is not like any bold decisions need made to incentivise anyone.

Offer people the chane to move there. If they don't take it up, on sale it goes down the list.

NOT saying that is the right thing to do, just that it's not like the commercial success of this hinges on incentives or initial losses to get people in.
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To get the right people in and make it a proper singing end. If you’re only looking at it from a commercial point of view they’d do what you have suggested.
 
Coatigan said:
Why though? If you read the reports on the waiting lists and the demand, it is not like any bold decisions need made to incentivise anyone.

Offer people the chane to move there. If they don't take it up, on sale it goes down the list.

NOT saying that is the right thing to do, just that it's not like the commercial success of this hinges on incentives or initial losses to get people in.
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I’m not convinced there is a waiting list.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I’m not talking about commercial success. I’m talking about it’s success in becoming the main singing area/end.
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Yes I got that. That's why I specified.

My point stands though, 'bold moves' are a luxury, not a necessity
 
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Gordyola said:
The stadium would need to be shut for a least one season removing the current roof and building a new one would be a substantial project Omar the COO has car doubts on any further development after the South Stand
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Why would this be the case?
The stadium would need to be shut for a least one season removing the current roof
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There's no reason why you couldn't build an additional structure with seats and roof behind the current roof, in one corner, then during the closed season remove the existing relevant section of roof.

Itc would take a significant amount of emgineering, but that's what engineers do, they over come obstacles.

Once you've done one corner, you can then do the others.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
This is broadly what I've described on here on several occasions but with a capacity (I believe) of twixt 77/85k.

A 'bowl',encompassing the spirals & with an adjusted rake, is built on land currently owned (which is a philosophy in UAE) and provides a huge amount of potential corporate space.

One elevation at a time consecutively.
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I totally agree.

It's an obvious step.
 
TedofChume said:
Why would this be the case?

There's no reason why you couldn't build an additional structure with seats and roof behind the current roof, in one corner, then during the closed season remove the existing relevant section of roof.

Itc would take a significant amount of emgineering, but that's what engineers do, they over come obstacles.

Once you've done one corner, you can then do the others.
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Im answering those who think the east and west stands could be extended similar to the south and north stands
It is entirely feasible to extend the upper rows towards the corners and modify the existing roof and as you suggest above it’s what engineers do
There is a need to accommodate large screens though
When the south stand was extended it was suggested that the corner solutions would likely not br a permanent ones
 
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