Seat Counters - 2023/24

Somebody at the club thinks that nobody will notice the thousands of empty seats on the third tier.

8000 Newcastle fans - and even 93:20 tickets were free for seasoncard holders in those stands - and still thousands unsold.

And Newcastle fans are more obsessed about empty seats than our red friends so looking forward to their feedback !!

They weren't that bothered about empty seats in the 90's when the going wasn't so good!
 
Soriano is only doing what's expected of him.
Criticism of Soriano is criticism of his superiors, and, at the end of the day, the buck stops with Khaldoon.

As I see it, the CFG business model doesn't really give much of a shit about low paid/local/legacy supporters. It's the same at every 'elite' club.

That's just modern football...
It is, I just think some believe Soriano is given freedom to do what he wants and changing him would change anything they don’t like. Truth is he’s in position because he’s very good at implementing the strategies his chairman and owner are happy for him to implement, and any new CEO would be expected to continue his work.
 
As I see it, the CFG business model doesn't really give much of a shit about low paid/local/legacy supporters. It's the same at every 'elite' club.

That's just modern football...

I think they do care in as much as we're part of the entertainment for the viewers.
 
Soriano is only doing what's expected of him.
Criticism of Soriano is criticism of his superiors, and, at the end of the day, the buck stops with Khaldoon.

As I see it, the CFG business model doesn't really give much of a shit about low paid/local/legacy supporters. It's the same at every 'elite' club.

That's just modern football...

it should do when we cannot sell out
 
If I remember correctly I'm sure it was Soriano when he turned up at barca he did the same there moved the ultras because they was in decent seat then brought in memberships for tickets put all the prices up think loads of locals stopped going then the tourists took over.

I've noticed last time i was over there they have got In ticket shops locals now get discount for tickets must want them back now they ain't top dogs.
 
I'm a legacy fan, I've been once this year on a freebie, prior to that the last time I was a regular attender was with Pelligrini. The regular working class fan was priced out years ago, the price of a ticket is insane.
I always felt that the beginning of the end was the start of the premier league, prior to that it was doable for everyone.
My uncle introduced me to City in the early 70s, my dad would give him a quid to take me, that was train fare, dinner at Lewis's and admission! Feel really bad for dads taking their kids now.
Just happy that I can get by with the dodgy box.
 
If I remember correctly I'm sure it was Soriano when he turned up at barca he did the same there moved the ultras because they was in decent seat then brought in memberships for tickets put all the prices up think loads of locals stopped going then the tourists took over.

I've noticed last time i was over there they have got In ticket shops locals now get discount for tickets must want them back now they ain't top dogs.
Don’t know, but if true it reinforces the point City, at the very top knew exactly who they were employing and why, so Soriano can’t be blamed for doing what's expected of him, if he didn’t he’d lose his job.
As I say I don’t have that negative a view of him or the club, but those that do are attacking the wrong target.
 
If I remember correctly I'm sure it was Soriano when he turned up at barca he did the same there moved the ultras because they was in decent seat then brought in memberships for tickets put all the prices up think loads of locals stopped going then the tourists took over.

I've noticed last time i was over there they have got In ticket shops locals now get discount for tickets must want them back now they ain't top dogs.
Barca very rarely sell out the Camp Nou and they are not selling out their current temporary home either. Their average home league attendance this season is 40,565 with a lowest crowd against Almeria of 34,471. Their fanbase has always been a bit of a myth. I haves seen City at the Camp Nou three times and the atmosphere was shite. It is very easy to get tickets for their home games.
 
I don't think that's true, however I do find it amusing how some posters love to blame and attack Soriano, yet never mention his 2 superiors the chairman and owner that also think he's doing a very good job and approve of his business model.
Mainly because it would appear to me that the disengagement with the supporters appeared to start around the time of his arrival, also it’s exactly the same as what he implemented at Barca and now look at their shit show of a support now they’re going through a tough spell, but he’s fucked off and not having to deal with the fall out from that.

With regards Khaldoon, I have stated many a time that his end of season interviews are all fluff and don’t mean anything until backed up by actions, and with regards to supporter engagement he, along with the rest of them including, in my opinion Pep do very little.
 
I find it understandable that this is a disconnect twixt HHSM, KoolHand and local fans, but that doesn't explain the disconnect at local level.

Mike Summerbee is imbued with City's traditions and the value of supporters.

As an Ambassador, could/should he be doing much more on this subject and if not him who ??

When most of the club affairs are superbly managed, it really is unacceptable that a matter so central to the club,fans and the team still exists.
 
I don't normally vote Labour, but that has certainly got my vote, even though Manchester is a Labour city.

Obviously there are more pressing issues in the country, but clamping down on 'official ticket touting websites', lets not deny otherwise, is long overdue.

These official ticket touting websites are an absolute scurge for music and sports fans, ripping them off with sky high ticket prices and sky high fee charges, whilst trying to convince everyone they are doing music and sports fans a favour.

I think you may end up disappointed. That article seems to be suggesting that they are planning on extending the laws that already exist for football tickets, to other sports and areas of entertainment.

Clubs and music promoters etc. want to stop other people making money off them. They’re not so keen on those rules affecting themselves.
 
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I don't think that's true, however I do find it amusing how some posters love to blame and attack Soriano, yet never mention his 2 superiors the chairman and owner that also think he's doing a very good job and approve of his business model.
And you have to remember financial fair play !! This is the single biggest factor on ticket prices, ALL clubs are trying to squeeze every last penny out of supporters, blame the FUCKING RED Tops for this!!
 
Barca very rarely sell out the Camp Nou and they are not selling out their current temporary home either. Their average home league attendance this season is 40,565 with a lowest crowd against Almeria of 34,471. Their fanbase has always been a bit of a myth. I haves seen City at the Camp Nou three times and the atmosphere was shite. It is very easy to get tickets for their home games.

I've never been in the visitor's section at Barcelona, always been able to buy tickets in the decent seats shortly after arriving in the city.
On one occasion, the hotel reception sorted tickets out for us.
 
And you have to remember financial fair play !! This is the single biggest factor on ticket prices, ALL clubs are trying to squeeze every last penny out of supporters, blame the FUCKING RED Tops for this!!
I think FFP is less of an issue the last 2 seasons with decent profits. However up until last season maybe the one before, certainly pre covid, I think we were making profits around £10 mill which without match day income that profit would have been a loss and a possible FFP failure.
So while I think the club could now afford a freeze, and should be thinking about it without risking a loss, I don’t think that was true 2 or 3 years ago.
 
1894 need a banner that says '£100 tik for adult and child is taking the piss!!'
That too but there is an element of if you can’t beat the, join them. We are planning to take 2 coaches to a game next season with the other coach full of youngsters and their teachers on the discounted tickets
 

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