Big Joe Corrigan
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With a name like yours I would have expected you to live in Prestwich ;)
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FogBlueInSanFran
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I actually like Columbus OH okay so if Cincy is more like that I probably will like it.
My experiences in Cleveland have been clouded by time largely restricted to downtown to be fair. And it’s been a hot minute since I’ve been.
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I worked in Columbus for a time - 6 months or so, years ago. I really liked the city.
My time in Columbus was mostly spent downtown - and given my previous post about suburbia USA you'd think I'd have hated the city. And yet, Columbus, even downtown Columbus, had, for some reason, a clean, welcoming, small-town (small-city?) neighborhood feel.
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roman totale
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I used to ;)
I think you’d like it a lot more now.
It helps when you’re the state capital. The city is growing like crazy too. As a whole though, I don’t like it anywhere near as much as Cleveland, or Cincinnati. Downtown is lifeless compared to those two and with the exception of Short North and German Village, the neighborhoods are very vanilla.
Anyway, I’ve taken this thread way off-topic, so let’s get back on track with some potentially happy news. By the way, until I read this article, I’d completely forgotten that Truth Social was a thing.
Trump may have to hold "fire sale" for his assets
Trump said he's had to liquidate real estate properties to post a bond needed to appeal a $454 million civil fraud judgment.
www.newsweek.com
SkyBlueFlux
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Sorry - long post coming but for those who are interested in some of the finer points, I've been procrastinating writing an essay to look into this instead. Important note, I am not a lawyer so take my reading of it with a pinch of salt, I just read a lot of legal news, but even I can see the craziness in this because there are parts which just outright contradict written black and white law. It is that bad.
It's really hard to understate how fucking nuts this order from her is. There are just so many problems with it that it's hard to know where to start. According to those in the know, this might be the strangest thing to ever come out of a federal judge, it seems to belie the fact that she's not just shilling for Trump but she actually doesn't understand what the fuck she's doing at the most fundamental level. Just a few highlights:
1) She is asking for Smith to submit jury instructions that allow the jury to decide on matters of law. This is like Court 101, juries decide on matters of fact. You can't delegate the task of correctly classifying documents to a jury ffs. She is trying to frame this as an argument over a mater of fact... it is just not.
2) The second part of this order contradicts the first part, it's internally inconsistent. She's saying the classification of documents is not a matter of what the documents contain but under the whim of the executive (suggesting she is considering the argument Trump can declassify things with his mind - batshit). If that's the case then... why does 1 exist?
3) The appeals court has already unequivocally come down on argument (2) and stated that Trump has "no personal or possessory interest" in the documents - in other words, they are not personal documents, no matter what Trump says.
4) Whether a document is a personal document is decided very clearly in the PRA, it's like she hasn't even read it. She omits an entire section of classification in this ruling, "Agency Records" which many of these are as they were created by Agencies with no input from Trump or the Office of President. The PRA is quite clear that this type of document cannot be construed as a personal document - it also misunderstands that the PRA does not supersede existing law under the Espionage Act.
5) She's once again suggesting a jury with no clearance should have full and unredacted access to sensitive national security documentation.
The question is, what do they do now? I don't know... they could decide this is the point at which they ask for extraordinary relief (removal). I don't think they'll do that. I think in likeliness, Smith will basically just ignore this order completely - citing the appellate court's previous ruling, call her bluff - and challenge her to dismiss him for contempt. If she takes that bait then the chances of success for her getting removed will rocket because it's either her or Smith and only one of the two clearly has the law on their side.
In all likelihood she backs down and the circus continues...
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I'm inclined to believe this, not, per se, because his current lawyers say so - Trump has been able to find lawyers willing to lie for him or willing/too stupid to be duped into his whatever he's claiming. Whereas numerous pundits have been skeptical that Trump could raise roughly 1/2 billion dollars to post bond.Trump may have to hold "fire sale" for his assets
Trump said he's had to liquidate real estate properties to post a bond needed to appeal a $454 million civil fraud judgment.
It'll be interesting to see how Trump's appeal plays out. If Trump were a random complainant without history in the courts - I rather suspect that he'd get some relief with regard to the bond - if only because it's such a high dollar amount.
But given Trump's history with the NY courts, perhaps - and possibly even likely - Trump's appeal will fail.
Stay tuned - interesting developments await.
can't he just plunder donations from his MAGA base?
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Ohio is a pretty uneventful state; quite clean and green for the most part with some heavily populated/industrial areas dotted about for good measure. I've spent some time in Dayton, and visited Cleverland. I found it quite chilled, but there are certainly some no-go areas.
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He's trying. But 0.5 billion dollars plus is a huge sum of money which his base is very unlikely to support.
I think Jack has already planned for this move by Cannon - it's the reason they only submitted a few dozen of the hundreds of top secret files they found as evidence, they knew the trial could potentially open them up to public viewing.
However Cannon has quite clearly just broken the explicit word of the law here, so maybe he'll just got to the 11th and get her removed.
Either way, she's playing a game of time wasting and the feds are playing a game of "Put Trump in prison for the rest of his life".
SkyBlueFlux
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They're not going to cow to his demands of relief on the bond when he has gone on record in deposition saying he is a billionaire with "in excess of $400m of liquid cash" available. He can't even make the argument that he used that for his Carroll bond because that came from somebody else. If he wanted relief, then he should have done the smart thing which he's incapable of doing and kept his big mouth shut and stop bragging about things that aren't true. His lawyer's arguments seem to be conveniently forgetting that he said this. He doesn't need a bondsman, he apparently has the money. He said so himself. So put it the fuck up.
He's reaping the consequences of his lies.
Therre's a lot of money in US politics but not that much.
Trump raised $8.8m in January. So it would take him until September 2028 to raise the money he needs through donations.
Of course that's not forgetting the fact they spent $12m in January, they're actually not covering the campaign costs at the moment.
Also @BlueMoonAcrossThePond I have to disagree with you - the outcome of the appeal won't be interesting it's a foregone conclusion. It might be fun though.
SkyBlueFlux
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He has a GoFundMe which has been up for over a month now that has managed to raise a massive 0.25% of the judgment value. His base is as broke as he is at this point.
yeah thought he'd been doing that, maybe Vlad can loan him a few roubles.
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Or maybe Elon.
Turns out his fundraising money mostly came from billionaires and they aren't that keen on handing it all over to Lara Trump. What was the viral billionaire Republican quote from last month? I donate money to win elections, not fund the lifestyles of wannabe billionaires
that's a good point, or maybe he could loan Donny a craft to take him to Mars if it looks like he's getting some bird...
SkyBlueFlux
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Yes, billionaires for all of their flaws do tend to have a knack for staying billionaires. A knack that usually means protecting their assets.
The funniest part about the GoFundMe attempt is that it doesn't even cover the additional interest he's accrued since the GoFundMe was set up. It's technically operating at a loss.
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Russian State bank will cover it.
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He's been doing this non stop since the 2019 election.
The reality is that not only is Trump on the edge of bankruptcy but the Republican / Trump base has been milked to death. US political funding is a murky murky subject but plenty of evidence that Trump is done. Nikey Hayley was out fundraising him toward the end. Given she was lucky to get 1 3rd of Trumps votes that tells you Trump voters pockets are empty.
And most Republican fundraising was going to Trump even before he took full control of the RNC.
There are some big hitter's out there that could change the picture but giving money to Trump right now does not feel like a good investment.