Joao Cancelo | Al Hilal Player

We had a lad at work exactly the same moved stations or watches every few years yet it was never him who was at fault, useless twat as well, good riddance to Cancelo but we won’t get anywhere near asking with his attitude it will follow him everywhere and he will just fade away into obscurity
 
I just think thats harsh. I know he was a dick but he’s paid for it.

He’s clearly struggled since his Mum died when he was young.

Him and his family got attacked by some vile people while living in Manchester.

I don’t want him back but lets not go overboard.
I'm sorry that all that happened to him but it's pretty obvious the guy is a bellend.
 
I just think thats harsh. I know he was a dick but he’s paid for it.

He’s clearly struggled since his Mum died when he was young.

Him and his family got attacked by some vile people while living in Manchester.

I don’t want him back but lets not go overboard.
Yes what happened to him wasn't nice but I haven't gone overboard.

Someone alluded to him not staying at a club for a prolonged period of time. Is that coincidence? Or has he got that knack of annoying people?

Technically very good but pep obviously didn't like something about him. Or maybe him get attacked and the burglary made him want to get out.
 
I just think thats harsh. I know he was a dick but he’s paid for it.

He’s clearly struggled since his Mum died when he was young.

Him and his family got attacked by some vile people while living in Manchester.

I don’t want him back but lets not go overboard.
If losing his Mum at a young age is the caveat for his behaviour, why hasn't multi-millionaire Cancelo sought mental health help for his trauma?

Nah, I've come across many people like him who're inherent dickheads & use a traumatic experience as a crutch to lean on, to excuse their unhinged, anti-social behaviour.

OK, he may have lost his Mum young, but he's not the only person in human history to suffer that horrible fate.

On top of that, he's living a lifestyle, & has a career that most men would seriously consider giving up their left bollock to have.

His childhood trauma should not be an excuse for the immature conduct of a 30 year old millionaire. He needs to grow the fuck up & count his many blessings instead of blaming his childhood trauma for his shortcomings (if that's what he's doing).

As for the horrific break in, apparently he had a reputation for being a prized bellend before he arrived here. If he's using that as yet another excuse for his imbecilic conduct, it's further evidence of what an inherent dick he is by nature.
 
If losing his Mum at a young age is the caveat for his behaviour, why hasn't multi-millionaire Cancelo sought mental health help for his trauma?

Nah, I've come across many people like him who're inherent dickheads & use a traumatic experience as a crutch to lean on, to excuse their unhinged, anti-social behaviour.

OK, he may have lost his Mum young, but he's not the only person in human history to suffer that horrible fate.

On top of that, he's living a lifestyle, & has a career that most men would seriously consider giving up their left bollock to have.

His childhood trauma should not be an excuse for the immature conduct of a 30 year old millionaire. He needs to grow the fuck up & count his many blessings instead of blaming his childhood trauma for his shortcomings (if that's what he's doing).

As for the horrific break in, apparently he had a reputation for being a prized bellend before he arrived here. If he's using that as yet another excuse for his imbecilic conduct, it's further evidence of what an inherent dick he is by nature.
Not a fan?
 
He's so toxic that if we somehow talk to Ratcliff and arrange a swap for 50 year old Neville.. we'd have a steal on our hands lol.

City have moved on and he doesn't fit into our plans at all!
 
If losing his Mum at a young age is the caveat for his behaviour, why hasn't multi-millionaire Cancelo sought mental health help for his trauma?

Nah, I've come across many people like him who're inherent dickheads & use a traumatic experience as a crutch to lean on, to excuse their unhinged, anti-social behaviour.

OK, he may have lost his Mum young, but he's not the only person in human history to suffer that horrible fate.

On top of that, he's living a lifestyle, & has a career that most men would seriously consider giving up their left bollock to have.

His childhood trauma should not be an excuse for the immature conduct of a 30 year old millionaire. He needs to grow the fuck up & count his many blessings instead of blaming his childhood trauma for his shortcomings (if that's what he's doing).

As for the horrific break in, apparently he had a reputation for being a prized bellend before he arrived here. If he's using that as yet another excuse for his imbecilic conduct, it's further evidence of what an inherent dick he is by nature.

Just because you have the means for therapy or treatment doesn't mean you have the inclination to seek it out.

Part of some people's trauma is that they bottle everything up and don't talk about it, it's a shame and they don't like admitting there is something wrong with them or that they are broken.

They feel the gaze of judgement even when they are alone.

And with the kind of empathy free content above it would be fair to concede they have a point sometimes.
 
Just because you have the means for therapy or treatment doesn't mean you have the inclination to seek it out.

Part of some people's trauma is that they bottle everything up and don't talk about it, it's a shame and they don't like admitting there is something wrong with them or that they are broken.

They feel the gaze of judgement even when they are alone.

And with the kind of empathy free content above it would be fair to concede they have a point sometimes.
Cancelo has admitted he has issues. It's not like he isn't aware. That being said, & considering he has the wherewithal above most people alive to seek the very best professional help & support, where does sympathy come into it, over & above a level of self responsibility?

Stones, Gundog, Rodri, Philips, Sterling, Jesus, Zinchenko & several others have also had periods being out of the team, but they respectfully spoke to the coaching staff to see what they should be doing to force their way into the starting line up, & if that didn't work, they & the club parted company.

By all accounts, Cancelo's way of dealing with being being dropped because of a lack of form was to launch into a suicide tackle on Foden in training, causing an injury which apparently led to a training ground fight, with the injury keeeping Phil out of the team for weeks.

Now just imagine if that's how the rest of the players reacted to being dropped? Are you OK with that?
 
Cancelo has admitted he has issues. It's not like he isn't aware. That being said, & considering he has the wherewithal above most people alive to seek the very best professional help & support, where does sympathy come into it, over & above a level of self responsibility?

Stones, Gundog, Rodri, Philips, Sterling, Jesus, Zinchenko & several others have also had periods being out of the team, but they respectfully spoke to the coaching staff to see what they should be doing to force their way into the starting line up, & if that didn't work, they & the club parted company.

By all accounts, Cancelo's way of dealing with being being dropped because of a lack of form was to launch into a suicide tackle on Foden in training, causing an injury which apparently led to a training ground fight, with the injury keeeping Phil out of the team for weeks.

Now just imagine if that's how the rest of the players reacted to being dropped? Are you OK with that?

You seem to have taken gossip as gospel.

Do you think maybe it's time to stop speculating and waffling on?

I'm not really interested in a discussion tbh. You just come across as someone running their mouth whilst lacking any self-awareness that the kind of alleged mardy arsed behaviour and poor attitude you are slagging off is exactly what you are displaying yourself.
 
He speaks very highly of himself. The good ones never have to. The greats never do.
He was shite defensively with slightly above average ability anywhere else.
And to think Kolarov used to get a mauling for his defensive performances.
Fuck him. The petulant little tart.
 
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You seem to have taken gossip as gospel.

Do you think maybe it's time to stop speculating and waffling on?

I'm not really interested in a discussion tbh. You just come across as someone running their mouth whilst lacking any self-awareness that the kind of alleged mardy arsed behaviour and poor attitude you are slagging off is exactly what you are displaying yourself.
Where's the speculation? He's no longer here, Bayern didn't want to make the deal permanent after having a long-standing interest in him, & their former manager admitted Cancelo was a difficult & complex character. Now Cancelo's decided to attack Guardiola through the media.

Some of the very same ITK's who people hang on their every word were the one's who shared the training ground incident info, hence me saying "By all accounts" because I wasn't there & it's never been officially confirmed.

If Pep wanted him, he'd be here, so I'd rather default to supporting City's position, than appeasing some Internet random who decides to stick his beak in, probably because he's got nothing better to do than seek conflict.

You evidently lack the ability to connect the dots. Pep got rid of Cancelo in the middle of the season, & without a replacement. The result? We went on to have the most successful season in Manchester City's 130+ year history.

What you fail to recognise is you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, so quite evidently City have cut their losses & the club has hugely benefitted & progressed in Cancelo's absence.

If you don't want to accept these facts, then that's your business. You've offered nothing of note to this discussion, so as you suggested I think it best you exit this conversation & go to bed.

Good night )(
 
Where's the speculation? He's no longer here, Bayern didn't want to make the deal permanent after having a long-standing interest in him, & their former manager admitted Cancelo was a difficult & complex character. Now Cancelo's decided to attack Guardiola through the media.

Some of the very same ITK's who people hang on their every word were the one's who shared the training ground incident info, hence me saying "By all accounts" because I wasn't there & it's never been officially confirmed.

If Pep wanted him, he'd be here, so I'd rather default to supporting City's position, than appeasing some Internet random who decides to stick his beak in, probably because he's got nothing better to do than seek conflict.

You evidently lack the ability to connect the dots. Pep got rid of Cancelo in the middle of the season, & without a replacement. The result? We went on to have the most successful season in Manchester City's 130+ year history.

What you fail to recognise is you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, so quite evidently City have cut their losses & the club has hugely benefitted & progressed in Cancelo's absence.

If you don't want to accept these facts, then that's your business. You've offered nothing of note to this discussion, so as you suggested I think it best you exit this conversation & go to bed.

Good night )(

He comes across as a bit of a ****.

Cancelo does as well ;-O
 
Where's the speculation? He's no longer here, Bayern didn't want to make the deal permanent after having a long-standing interest in him, & their former manager admitted Cancelo was a difficult & complex character. Now Cancelo's decided to attack Guardiola through the media.

Some of the very same ITK's who people hang on their every word were the one's who shared the training ground incident info, hence me saying "By all accounts" because I wasn't there & it's never been officially confirmed.

If Pep wanted him, he'd be here, so I'd rather default to supporting City's position, than appeasing some Internet random who decides to stick his beak in, probably because he's got nothing better to do than seek conflict.

You evidently lack the ability to connect the dots. Pep got rid of Cancelo in the middle of the season, & without a replacement. The result? We went on to have the most successful season in Manchester City's 130+ year history.

What you fail to recognise is you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, so quite evidently City have cut their losses & the club has hugely benefitted & progressed in Cancelo's absence.

If you don't want to accept these facts, then that's your business. You've offered nothing of note to this discussion, so as you suggested I think it best you exit this conversation & go to bed.

Good night )(

I told you I didn't want a discussion with you and your response is to trot out another six paragraphs?

You obviously have some kind of problem and the need to one up and condescend because of your insecurity. Overthinking tripe in the transfer section of a football forum.

I was trying to tell you that you were insensitive. Now I know you are a ****.
 
He comes across as a bit of a ****.

Cancelo does as well ;-O

Dazzle you're a pathetic mens rights activist who has meltdowns about sausages on school lunch menus and thinks Mumsnet is a threat to western civilisation.

I'm not sure anyone should really care what you claim to think. I'd call you a **** too, if I didn't think you were so pathetic.
 
I told you I didn't want a discussion with you and your response is to trot out another six paragraphs?

You obviously have some kind of problem and the need to one up and condescend because of your insecurity. Overthinking tripe in the transfer section of a football forum.

I was trying to tell you that you were insensitive. Now I know you are a ****.
You don't want a conversation, but yet you're still here pissing everyone off. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Mate, it's you who seems to have a Cancelo sized mental issue, which is probably why you're supporting him over Pep Guardiola & Manchester City.

I suggest you seek urgent mental health assistance. You never know, you might even get the padded cell next to Cancelo...
 
You don't want a conversation, but yet you're still here pissing everyone off. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Mate, it's you who seems to have a Cancelo sized mental issue, which is probably why you're supporting him over Pep Guardiola & Manchester City.

I suggest you seek urgent mental health assistance. You never know, you might even get the padded cell next to Cancelo...

You've made an assumption that I supported him over Pep. I haven't.

I don't actually care about any tit for tat between them. Players fall out with managers all the time. He's not coming back. He's on big wages and the club don't have the higher bargaining position in terms of negotiating what was the market value before the fallout so I'm not getting my knickers in a twist about them selling at a loss either.

I took issue with the needless insensitive tone of your post and the way you talked about aspects of issues that you didn't even need to touch on. Cancelo talked about the robbery in his latest comments he didn't say anything about losing his mother.

Dragging it up in the way you did was a ****'s trick. You've only proved yourself a **** by telling me I have mental issues.
 
Is it telling that he has only name checked Ake & Rico. As others have said it seems that he wants to stay at Barca but they won't or can't pay a transfer fee, so has made sure there's no chance of coming back.
 
You've made an assumption that I supported him over Pep. I haven't.

I don't actually care about any tit for tat between them. Players fall out with managers all the time. He's not coming back. He's on big wages and the club don't have the higher bargaining position in terms of negotiating what was the market value before the fallout so I'm not getting my knickers in a twist about them selling at a loss either.

I took issue with the needless insensitive tone of your post and the way you talked about aspects of issues that you didn't even need to touch on. Cancelo talked about the robbery in his latest comments he didn't say anything about losing his mother.

Dragging it up in the way you did was a ****'s trick. You've only proved yourself a **** by telling me I have mental issues.
You still here petal?

Cancelo first became problematic to City LONG BEFORE the House robbery incident, which suggests his behavioural issues are long-standing.

When Pep moved him to left back after Mendy's injury & court woes, he settled down for a couple of seasons, even making the PL team of the season.

However, his form deteriorated just as Aké began to get Pep-Ball, so between Aké & Laporté he lost his place, & his behavioural issues flared up again.

Instead of pulling his finger out & proving he deserved to be in the starting line-up, he was walking around the CFA & the Etihad with a face like a smacked arse.

He started for Portugal in the Winter World Cup, but after two games & poor performances, he lost his place & started acting up during the tournament.

He returned to City still angry, & continued with his belligerent behaviour here. We'd already sold Zinchenko so he should've been our first choice LB, but his form was woeful & Pep preferred Aké or Laporté instead.

It's at this point the football world we're stunned when it was confirmed he was in Munich having a medical with a view to a loan move, as City were trying to negotiate an obligation to buy.

It's also around this time that rumours of the training ground bust up with Phil happened, & you think his surprise mid-season loan to Bayern was sheer coincidence?

I'm all about the collective rather than the individual, so all things considered I supported Guardiola's decision, albeit I was gutted it all ended the way it did.

Have you forgotten his celebrations when Bayern scored against us in the CL? He wasn't exactly endearing himself to City supporters. However, with rumours of his falling out with Bayern's coaching staff there was a real possibility he'd be back with City that summer, & so it proved as he ended up going on the pre-season tour to Japan with us.

He's moved on to Barça & I've always wished him the best with his future endeavours, but this week he's decided to attack Guardiola out of the Blue. Why?

The issue you seem to have overlooked is Cancelo's STILL our player, & unless we sell him or arrange another loan, he'll be back here in July after his character assassination of Pep. Haven't you even considered that nightmare scenario?

We seriously don't need that level of tension & toxic negativity around us, with all the media attention it will attract.

If you wanna support Cancelo & be understanding toward him, that's your business, but you can fuck right off trying to get on the backs of City fans who want nothing more to do with him, & his toxic behaviour.

Now do as you said you were going to do & end the discussion. Stop digging, throw the shovel out of the hole you're in & go to your bed. It's for the best, as you're now sounding more emotionally unhinged than Cancelo.
 
The issue you seem to have overlooked is Cancelo's STILL our player, & unless we sell him or arrange another loan, he'll be back here in July after his character assassination of Pep. Haven't you even considered that nightmare scenario?

He won't be though will he. Not unless the club decides to sit him in the reserves for the next 1-3 seasons.

If they don't reach a deal to sell or loan him they'll rip up his contract within 12 months maximum and I'd be surprised if it took 6 months.

The fact he gets itchy feet whenever he was benched and pushed for moves indicates he'd rather take a salary cut or waive future earnings in order to get released from his contract than copy Danny Mills and Drinkwater.

I haven't actually supported him over the club.I don't care, I wasn't there and I don't place much value on anonymous sources of e.g. the Athletic. They're cowards, "put your name on it or don't say anything".

You've failed to grasp that I haven't supported Cancelo. All I've done is call out your crass behaviour and using his traumatic childhood loss to call him to man-up . You have no idea of it's relevance so you shouldn't have mentioned it.

I didn't actually say anything about your response to the other stuff he said.

Take the same circumstances of childhood trauma and put it in a non football context and you might have thought more about what you said. Or maybe not.

I'm going to let you have the last word now and put you on ignore as I've no desire to read another ten paragraphs of overthinking and condescension.
 

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