New PL financial controls | Clubs agree squad spending cap 'in principle'

It'll be a draft system next and then the money will move to Spain where it can breath.

There’s only 3 clubs in Spain that would interest the best PL players. They can’t all play for all for those 3 Spanish clubs. There Isn’t going to be a mass exodus of the best players from the PL to Spain or to any other country. La Liga also has a spending cap.
 
I bet Tebas and La Liga cannot believe their luck.

They don't even need to try and better themselves at this rate, they cam just watching from a far at the PL destroying itself and in time La Liga will just overtake.


The minute the government got involved the money men's arses must have started twitching. This could very well be either the start of a ESL in earnest or Spain becoming the beneficiary of everyone at meeting level kicking the shit out of a cash cow.
 
That only works properly if every league does it.

La Liga doesnt have those controls, neither does Serie A.

Nothing stopping teams in those league paying the demanded transfer fees and wages.

Nothing except the much harsher financial rules in Spain, and UEFA rules meaning no one in Italy can afford the wages the PL players are getting now, much less in the future.
 
If, in purest terms, all clubs can spend the same amount (which is what I've inferred from the announcement, admittedly I could be wrong) then I don't see the issue with it.

A draft system similar to US sports would be the fairest approach but that's a logistical nightmare at this stage.

Clubs can never "own" players though via a draft.

City would never "own" Foden.

All players would be contracted to league and sub-contracted out according to the draft.
 
There’s only 3 clubs in Spain that would interest the best PL players. They can’t all play for all for those 3 Spanish clubs. There Isn’t going to be a mass exodus of the best players from the PL to Spain or to any other country. La Liga also has a spending cap.

La Liga IMHO opinion would accept having money men moving in, and in reality this is a wage cap that is being introduced because to make the numbers match up something has to give.

I am of the opinion players are paid too much (I know other people have different views) but I can't see why people at the top are interfering with what is a system that is pumping money out left right and centre.
 
Clubs can never "own" players though via a draft.

City would never "own" Foden.

All players would be contracted to league and sub-contracted out according to the draft.
Which is why it's a logistical, contractual nightmare. Perchance, in a few years, a draft system could be introduced that involves out of contract players? Who knows, just thinking out loud.
 
There’s only 3 clubs in Spain that would interest the best PL players. They can’t all play for all for those 3 Spanish clubs. There Isn’t going to be a mass exodus of the best players from the PL to Spain or to any other country. La Liga also has a spending cap.

No one said there would be a mass exodus.

But a death by a thousands cuts...

Slowly restricting spending will slowly mean the decline of the league.

It's madness.
 
Which is why it's a logistical, contractual nightmare. Perchance, in a few years, a draft system could be introduced that involves out of contract players? Who knows, just thinking out loud.

Out of contract would be a good idea actually.. keeps players in the game and would mean an Mbappe for example, as he is out of contract, would have to go to a club that has first dibs on him. i.e a lower team.
 
No one said there would be a mass exodus.

But a death by a thousands cuts...

Slowly restricting spending will slowly mean the decline of the league.

It's madness.

I really cannot emphasise enough that SPAIN ALREADY HAS A SPENDING LIMIT AND IT'S MORE STRICT THAN THIS.


It is so fucking frustrating seeing people like you writing comments about how the PL is fucking itself by introducing similar, but less strict controls than the ones already in place at all their competitors.

Every club in Spain is given a spending limit before the season. That information is public knowledge. For example Barcelona's this year is £174m.


You'll notice that £174m is roughly £400m below the proposed PL cap. So what you're getting upset about is the hypothetical that PL clubs can't spend £400m more per season than Barcelona.
 
No one said there would be a mass exodus.

But a death by a thousands cuts...

Slowly restricting spending will slowly mean the decline of the league.

It's madness.

Every month there seems to be something new, what with rule changes and financial regulations.

The model wasn't/isn't broke and someone is trying to kill it, it's like they want a big sparkly ESL with all the teams being Galactico's.

Tinfoil hat firmly on for this one.
 
I really cannot emphasise enough that SPAIN ALREADY HAS A SPENDING LIMIT AND IT'S MORE STRICT THAN THIS.


It is so fucking frustrating seeing people like you writing comments about how the PL is fucking itself by introducing similar, but less strict controls than the ones already in place at all their competitors.

I've already said above, La Liga has fucked itself with its financial controls. So it's madness that the PL would want to introduce their own.
 
No other industry except every other sport on the planet, which all have their own financial controls.

I'm also not sure how this is damaging the league. They've clearly decided that the competitiveness of the PL is it's key differentiator compared to Spain, Germany etc. so they've taken a step which ensures that stays no matter how big the top clubs grow, the bottom clubs in the league will stay competitive and preserve the top to bottom "anyone can beat anyone" thing the PL has been selling to become the biggest league in football.

Top 4 want to spend more? Make sure the lower table clubs are growing too.

Where does this myth that the Premier League is competitive come from? The games are every weekend to a degree but the title winners aren't and never has been. Certain teams have had a monopoly on winning the Premier League singes it's inception. The Rags in the 90's and 2000's with Arsenal and Chelsea thrown in. Since the 2010's until now it's been us with Chelsea winning a couple and Leicester and Liverpool grabbing one.

In fact throughout the Premier League's existence there's only two outlying winners of it. Blackburn and Leicester. Blackburn cause they were backed by a rich owner and Leicester as it happened during a season where every big club was in transition and they had a superb season.

The move they've made today doesn't make sense to me and I don't see what they're trying to achieve.
 
Where does this myth that the Premier League is competitive come from? The games are every weekend to a degree


There you go, you just answered your own question. The bottom teams can beat the top teams on their day. That doesn't happen in Spain or Germany. Or ask Pep, who once said the difference was that unlike in Spain or Germany, when you got 2-0 up against a relegation team in England, they don't think they've lost the game and give up.

But even if you just restrict it to the top. In Spain there's a big 2.5. In France there's a big 1. In Germany there's a big 1.

In England there's at least 4 clubs who are realisticaly trying to win the league every season. We're in a 3 way title race. When was the last one of those in Germany?
 
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I've already said above, La Liga has fucked itself with its financial controls. So it's madness that the PL would want to introduce their own.

LA Liga had to do it they were haemorrhaging cash at an alarming rate. Premier league clubs are getting more and more money.

Wont be long before the money saved by this initiative will be doled out down the divisions.
 
I’m surprised Newcastle have voted in favour of this.
Maybe I’m missing something?
 
I’m surprised Newcastle have voted in favour of this.
Maybe I’m missing something?

Newcastle's commercial revenues will not allow them to spend to the cap for probably 10 years.

FFP came in 2013, so Newcastle are probably thinking that by 2035 when they've grown their revenues to be competitive this rule will be reassessed.

Until then, it keeps them closer to the clubs they're trying to overtake.
 
I am surprised tbh, this adds an extra level of complexity on top of the UEFA rules for the top clubs.

We don't know the details yet, of course, but 6 times the lowest PL broadcasting revenue pretty much equals 70% of City's revenue anyway, so shouldn't affect us too much unless our revenue keeps growing faster than PL income for a few years. I suspect it may stabilise now, anyway.

If they are completely scrapping break-even requirements, I can see why Newcastle, for example, would vote for it. They can now invest more, until they qualify for Europe again. But are they scrapping break-even? If they are, what about debt?

Wait and see, I suppose.
 

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