You can't erase the absolute joy that I've experienced over the last few years after nearly 40 years of agony, and even if we are fitted up as guilty & titles stripped away a warm glow will remain thinking about the 15 years we've been around, pissing on the chips of all our red friends.Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
Spelling City with a lower case ‘c’. Fuck off back to Red Cafe or Rawk and report on that…You didn’t answer his question, just hurled semi-coherent abuse at him for asking a reasonable question.
If the club did do what its accused of I think a lot of people would feel incredibly betrayed, Soriano and Begiristain would be out at a minimum and then city fans would get over it eventually while the club would be made the black sheep of English football for a generation and presumably there would be a never ending stream of lawsuits between all parties.
Thank you. And I got called a rag - still hurting that one.You didn’t answer his question, just hurled semi-coherent abuse at him.
If the club did do what its accused of I think a lot of people would feel incredibly betrayed, Soriano and Begiristain would be out at a minimum and then city fans would get over it eventually while the club would be made the black sheep of English football for a generation.
You can't erase the absolute joy that I've experienced over the last few years after nearly 40 years of agony, and even if we are fitted up as guilty & titles stripped away a warm glow will remain thinking about the 15 years we've been around, pissing on the chips of all our red friends.
You actually got called a Rag, with a capitalised ‘R’. @Ducado should fuck off back to Red Cafe or Rawk and report on that.Thank you. And I got called a rag - still hurting that one.
Telly Savalas made a music career out of it.Isn't the whole 5000 page thread about 'ifs'?
I agree - it was more a question about how would people feel about our owners in that situation. None of us would ever lose love for the club or have our memories tainted but would peoples opinions or perceptions of our owners change. Wouldn't have bothered asking if everyone was gonna get their nickers in a twist. Might jump on twitter where people are more friendly :-)You can't erase the absolute joy that I've experienced over the last few years after nearly 40 years of agony, and even if we are fitted up as guilty & titles stripped away a warm glow will remain thinking about the 15 years we've been around, pissing on the chips of all our red friends.
I wouldn't - i would say good on them trying to find a way past the sham rules designed to keep a cartel of clubs scoffing at the trough.You didn’t answer his question, just hurled semi-coherent abuse at him for asking a reasonable question.
If the club did do what its accused of I think a lot of people would feel incredibly betrayed, Soriano and Begiristain would be out at a minimum and then city fans would get over it eventually while the club would be made the black sheep of English football for a generation and presumably there would be a never ending stream of lawsuits between all parties.
No, because what heinous 'crime' would our owners have committed?Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
It’s not with the league anymore. It will take as long as it takes.Bad news for those who are expecting this case to get resolved asap or in timely manner.
Pl will just leave this hanging and not give a flying fuck about any common ground. They achieved their end goal , ie smear campaign and it was successful atleast inside thier pea sized brain. City fans can never move past this shit coz this 115 is like dried old shit , the more you poke it , more it stinks.
At least he didn't say Man Cheaty.....Spelling City with a lower case ‘c’. Fuck off back to Red Cafe or Rawk and report on that…
That's only because he's from Cork biy...:)Even the United team. Although I hated Fergusson with a passion and Keane for that matter,
Or even man cheaty!At least he didn't say Man Cheaty.....
why ask such questions. So hypothetically weird !!!Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
Eh?Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
I would not feel betrayed by City. The rules are wrong, not what City may have done to navigate. For me City have been put through a witchhunt driven by a few American led competitors in an attempt to keep more of the money pie to themselves, so their US investors can suck more money out of football. I do not accept the presumption that those rules are just, so that if City should fail them then we deserve to be punished, and I do not understand if any City fans would. City is the victim here, no matter what the kangaroo court will end up deciding. If we loose I hope we take the whole PL down with us in a ragnarok of lawsuits.You didn’t answer his question, just hurled semi-coherent abuse at him for asking a reasonable question.
If the club did do what its accused of I think a lot of people would feel incredibly betrayed, Soriano and Begiristain would be out at a minimum and then city fans would get over it eventually while the club would be made the black sheep of English football for a generation and presumably there would be a never ending stream of lawsuits between all parties.
Nonsense.You didn’t answer his question, just hurled semi-coherent abuse at him for asking a reasonable question.
If the club did do what its accused of I think a lot of people would feel incredibly betrayed, Soriano and Begiristain would be out at a minimum and then city fans would get over it eventually while the club would be made the black sheep of English football for a generation and presumably there would be a never ending stream of lawsuits between all parties.
Victim eh? Now the dips are about to implode again maybe we could take over the mantle?I would not feel betrayed by City. The rules are wrong, not what City may have done to navigate. For me City have been put through a witchhunt driven by a few American led competitors in an attempt to keep more of the money pie to themselves, so their US investors can suck more money out of football. I do not accept the presumption that those rules are just, so that if City should fail them then we deserve to be punished, and I do not understand if any City fans would. City is the victim here, no matter what the kangaroo court will end up deciding. If we loose I hope we take the whole PL down with us in a ragnarok of lawsuits.
I'd only be angry if I couldn't renew my season ticket.Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
Principle is the same as Putin uses to pursue his political enemies. He just keep inventing new random laws and rules until they are dead.Victim eh? Now the dips are about to implode again maybe we could take over the mantle?
We didn’t fail the rules it was someone else’s fault. Ok I like it -:)