Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
If the Saudis give either of those 2 clubs big money for any of their cast offs, then they are fucking retarded, given their interest in Newcastle.Bet the Premier League won’t be carrying out an investigation when the dippers sell 32 year old Salah for £100m and the rags 64 year old Casemiro for £50m!
It's a platform for wankstains, who gives a fuck what they say.Twitter / X has been off the scale toxic since about 10pm on Tuesday. I can’t even imagine what it will be like from about 6pm on Sunday if things go as expected
The Saudis are dumb and blind when it’s comes to MBS rubbish ideology. They will pay stupid money to draw some attention.If the Saudis give either of those 2 clubs big money for any of their cast offs, then they are fucking retarded, given their interest in Newcastle.
It never seemed remotely likely that there would be a settlement before the season ended. They would obviously want to wait until Forest and Everton had secured safety from relegation. Or, if they were relegated, to leave a few weeks before announcing a settlement. Announcing a settlement just as Everton or Forest were relegated would have been ridiculous.There is a very good chance this will be concluded in the closed season, to do so now takes the eye off the product they sell, I have no doubt that the club will be exonerated, it’s just a matter off how the PL climbs down the hill they are stuck on, they need a way out, the whole FFP debacle has been a disaster from start to finish, and it proved to many that the industry can not police itself
It will be the last paragraph in Masters’ resignation announcement.It never seemed remotely likely that there would be a settlement before the season ended. They would obviously want to wait until Forest and Everton had secured safety from relegation. Or, if they were relegated, to leave a few weeks before announcing a settlement. Announcing a settlement just as Everton or Forest were relegated would have been ridiculous.
I have no idea if there will be a settlement, but if there is the time to announce it would be between the end of the season and the start of the Euros.
Well given the scandalous reporting of 115 has gone off the scale in the last 2 weeks - especially on broadcasters our ITKs told us had received legal ‘cease and desist’ letters, it’s pretty safe to assume that was a load of bollocks.Turned out to be bollocks?
Belt up blues! The vultures are all out today regards the 115 charges!! Shock, bitter!!Well given the scandalous reporting of 115 has gone off the scale in the last 2 weeks - especially on broadcasters our ITKs told us had received legal ‘cease and desist’ letters, it’s pretty safe to assume that was a load of bollocks.
We were told Talksport had been legally warned - the following day we were being called Lance Armstrong live on air.
Where is there any evidence of a close season settlement ? Where has any idea of a settlement come from other than a few guesses on here.There is a very good chance this will be concluded in the closed season, to do so now takes the eye off the product they sell, I have no doubt that the club will be exonerated, it’s just a matter off how the PL climbs down the hill they are stuck on, they need a way out, the whole FFP debacle has been a disaster from start to finish, and it proved to many that the industry can not police itself
do you try to live upto your name on here ?,you're a miserable ****, everytime i read one of your posts you're whinging about something or slagging the club off, shut the fuck up.Where is there any evidence of a close season settlement ? Where has any idea of a settlement come from other than a few guesses on here.
Whilst this would be fantastic it’s complete wishful thinking and goes against everything the PL have indicated to the journalists they leak info to.
I cannot believe the PL would still be saying via the usual outlets there is an Autumn hearing and announcement next year when they are in secret settlement discussions for the Summer.
I’m pretty confident we will be cleared of most charges but don’t believe this is not going to end up being heard as planned in the Autumn.
We currently being engulfed in a tsunami of negative coverage with another potential double being completely discredited with hundreds of 115 articles - why would we take that on the chin if we are being cleared ?
I was giddy after Fulham last Saturday and the giddiness went into overdrive after our win at Spurs.I’d like to put on record that I’m still giddy ;)
It’s an educated guess really by just looking at the politics of it all, some of the stuff on here comes from people with close connections with the club, so don’t discount it allWhere is there any evidence of a close season settlement ? Where has any idea of a settlement come from other than a few guesses on here.
Whilst this would be fantastic it’s complete wishful thinking and goes against everything the PL have indicated to the journalists they leak info to.
I cannot believe the PL would still be saying via the usual outlets there is an Autumn hearing and announcement next year when they are in secret settlement discussions for the Summer.
I’m pretty confident we will be cleared of most charges but don’t believe this is not going to end up being heard as planned in the Autumn.
We currently being engulfed in a tsunami of negative coverage with another potential double being completely discredited with hundreds of 115 articles - why would we take that on the chin if we are being cleared ?
Cease and desist is not something you use to stop fair comment there are some basics of free speech, it will never stop the discussion of 115 but will stop the cheat narrative that was sneaking in to some news outletsWell given the scandalous reporting of 115 has gone off the scale in the last 2 weeks - especially on broadcasters our ITKs told us had received legal ‘cease and desist’ letters, it’s pretty safe to assume that was a load of bollocks.
We were told Talksport had been legally warned - the following day we were being called Lance Armstrong live on air.
IF there is a settlement I would have thought they'd announce it during the euros when everyone had that to distract themIt never seemed remotely likely that there would be a settlement before the season ended. They would obviously want to wait until Forest and Everton had secured safety from relegation. Or, if they were relegated, to leave a few weeks before announcing a settlement. Announcing a settlement just as Everton or Forest were relegated would have been ridiculous.
I have no idea if there will be a settlement, but if there is the time to announce it would be between the end of the season and the start of the Euros.
I may have fallen for the bollocks of settlements and cease and desist letters, but I genuinely believe the PL wouldn't want us to be exonerated during the season especially if other clubs had been docked points, irrespective of those deductions being for different charges.Where is there any evidence of a close season settlement ? Where has any idea of a settlement come from other than a few guesses on here.
Whilst this would be fantastic it’s complete wishful thinking and goes against everything the PL have indicated to the journalists they leak info to.
I cannot believe the PL would still be saying via the usual outlets there is an Autumn hearing and announcement next year when they are in secret settlement discussions for the Summer.
I’m pretty confident we will be cleared of most charges but don’t believe this is not going to end up being heard as planned in the Autumn.
We currently being engulfed in a tsunami of negative coverage with another potential double being completely discredited with hundreds of 115 articles - why would we take that on the chin if we are being cleared ?
So likening us to Lance Armstrong is free speech is it ?Cease and desist is not something you use to stop fair comment there are some basics of free speech, it will never stop the discussion of 115 but will stop the cheat narrative that was sneaking in to some news outlets
And it’s never going to stop the click baiters or other fans
I'd want to see the evidence before directing my anger. If this has been instigated by the usual suspects then I'd be angry at those suspects and at the spineless bastards at the Premier League who are simply puppets for the cartel clubs.Apologies for going slightly off piste but just wondered what others thought about this conversation me and my brother had last week. We've all been so busy defending the allegations that nobody has really discussed how we should feel if we are found guilty.
Like most of you on here I seriously doubt that our owners would commit such a wide range of fraudulent acts when we really never needed to and I believe we have no reason not to trust Khaldoon when he says we have irrefutable evidence to prove our innocence but just playing devils advocate for a moment...
If we were found guilty and it all comes out that the allegations were true and it was proved beyond all doubt that our owners used tactics to circumnavigate/break the rules to gain a sporting advantage - how would you feel about our owners after such a judgement and would you just forgive them for tarnishing our clubs name because we won some (well quite a lot) of trophies?
Would any of you be angry with our owners for taking the club we have loved all our lives and dragging it through the mud for commercial gain and leaving us as fans to deal with the shit show it leaves behind (as we are now)? I feel there would never be any coming back from it as every success from here on out would just be met with the old 115 cheat tag from rivals a they are doing now before our case has even been heard. It would almost be like - what's the point anymore, we were better off without the success but our integrity in-tact.
If the owners brought that upon us I just don't know how I would feel about it all. I think it would be fair to be very angry with them.
Was that broadcast or printed? And of course it would only apply to those who had received it, again it’s not about stopping discussion of this but attempting to stop the cheating narrative, I don’t know if they sent them however the cheating narrative does appear to have stoppedSo likening us to Lance Armstrong is free speech is it ?
I would have thought legal letters ( if they had been sent ) were supposed to stop that kind of libellous comment.
A good day to bury bad news as they sayIF there is a settlement I would have thought they'd announce it during the euros when everyone had that to distract them