Paqueta Charged By The FA.

Vienna_70 said:
Personally, I think he’s fucked, having seen those clips.
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Are they the only fouls that he had in those games? And are they out of line with other fouls in other games?

If someone edited video of anyone of us they could tell any story they wanted.
 
Stephen230 said:
It’ll be the betting activity that decides his fate, not the clips of the incidents.
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True but I'm not sure that a correlation between the betting activity and his yellow card bookings is enough to imply definite proof. It's just "more likely" to be true I think. And I'm not sure that is fair.

I'm no expert obviously but I just hope for the lad's sake (or any other player's sake) that proper authorities (police, judges, etc) are involved and not some dope from the FA.
 
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Vienna_70 said:
Personally, I think he’s fucked, having seen those clips.
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Image of Proper fucked?
 
And now, an official statement from the FA.

Brought to you by Sky Bet in partnership with Bet365 and Ladbrokes. Don't forget to put your accas on guys!

But of course, always gamble aware.

As we see pictures of Paqueta playing every week with 'betway' printed across his chest on big bold letters.

Obviously this is serious stuff, but they're hardly adverse to accepting a few cash payments themselves from betting companies, are they? Sorry but I just find it hard to take the FA seriously on this subject when they're happy for gambling to infest every other aspect of our game. Probably they didn't get a cut and that's why they're miffed.

Personally I'd say tip of the iceberg. Lots of money in the game, lots of opportunities for people to make more money, lots more going on.
 
TonyM said:
Maybe my view is biased by the fact that I have no faith in football authorities to be fair and honest. I see football authorities to be a group of imbeciles who will attack anyone if they think it looks good in the media.

But I can't see those clips as clear evidence of anything... even if they are correlated with betting patterns.

Imo this should be either a police matter or no action taken.
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Not sure anybody would disagree with that.
But football makes a lot of money from the betting industry so that industry calls the shots.
 
East Level 2 said:
Not sure anybody would disagree with that.
But football makes a lot of money from the betting industry so that industry calls the shots.
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And the one thing that the FA have always done in the past, is make sure they have a multitude of indisputable evidence before they charge a player with gambling offences.

In fact one criticism they have faced is letting the likes of Toney carrying on playing and gambling when they are well aware of the situation, before they’re happy they have enough and go public.

I appreciate parallels could be drawn here with those saying there must be something in 115 charges.

But specifically on this issue, I can’t recall a single case where they’ve brought charges and the player hasn’t been absolutely banged to rights when the evidence is highlighted.
 
Stephen230 said:
And the one thing that the FA have always done in the past, is make sure they have a multitude of indisputable evidence before they charge a player with gambling offences.

In fact one criticism they have faced is letting the likes of Toney carrying on playing and gambling when they are well aware of the situation, before they’re happy they have enough and go public.

I appreciate parallels could be drawn here with those saying there must be something in 115 charges.

But specifically on this issue, I can’t recall a single case where they’ve brought charges and the player hasn’t been absolutely banged to rights when the evidence is highlighted.
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Betway's systems triggered this alert. The circumstantial evidence will be in those systems and I suspect it will be pretty overwhelming. We all know how much bookies hate to lose!

If people on Paqueta Island barely place any bets on Premier League yellow cards and then all of a sudden there's a flurry of them on the games where Paqueta got booked, he's toast. They've clearly been far too obvious about it to trigger those alerts so quickly.
 
No doubt I’m not the first to say bang goes his move to City. What a silly boy. He denies it but I think he will lose.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
If he has done this what a fucking clown
Why..

He's obviously earning a stupid amount of money .
Why would he need to be so greedy to risk his career for a few extra quid
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He might not have made any money out of it. He’s not betted personally.

If guilty, he’s spot fixed and given information to people in his home town for them to win money.

It’s far more serious than what Toney and Tonoli did. It’s illegal and could send him to prison as well as a lengthy football ban.
 
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Betterdeedthan red said:
If he has done this what a fucking clown
Why..

He's obviously earning a stupid amount of money .
Why would he need to be so greedy to risk his career for a few extra quid
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I don’t think it was for him, I think his pals back home were betting on him getting booked in a game and he obliged.. the dick. He could have just given em some money if he was that arsed.
Anyway that’s his move to us fucked.. NEXT!
 
Tim Vickery was on earlier. He seems to think the lad is in deep trouble. He sounded gutted about it, and talked of how the betting culture is relatively new in Brazil, but rife and growing.
 
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