City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

mancboy said:
This is a legal action and the arbitration will be heard by a judge who will hold them to the same laws as any british business which is entirely citys case to be fair that the pl rules do not comply with anti competition law in the uk
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halfcenturyup said:
It's a section X arbitration under the PL rules which is as close to a CAS arbitration you will get under the rules. So the PL chooses an arbitrator, the club chooses an arbitrator and the chair is chosen by those two.
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These are quite different claims. The top one makes more sense, but does anyone know where/how this will be heard?
 
Whatever the outcome of this and the November hearing the game that we fell in love with has been taken over by the greed of the old cartel.

The great unwashed are claiming that City are trying to run away with the league and make it uncompetitive. Lets not forget that there have been 31 seasons of the prem and united have won 13 of them, that's 41% to just one club. 51 teams have played in the prem since its inception and 7 have won it, that's 13%. It has never been competitive in the sense that a small few always win it.

Now that we are involved in this 'small few' this is no longer acceptable and the good of the game is at stake. The xenophobia on display portrayed as righteousness is sickening and I back the club all the way in fighting what is clear and orchestrated targeting of a club that simply doesn't have the right name and play in the right colours.
 
City are absolutely right about the voting rules here and there is a block of American owners within the league who will vote in their interests. How can 12 of 20 teams be a unanimous vote to push through legislation that will be more advantageous to others, I thought this back in February when this initial story was knocking around.
 
Centurions said:
You've got me doubting myself now, I could have sworn they said Cross from The Sun but perhaps you're right.

Edit: yes, I just rewound and it is John Cross from The Mirror, not The Sun.
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...also writes for Daily (Sunday) Express, Daily Star (Sunday) and The People, as all owned by one company now
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
Maybe though the club are perhaps running out of patience with authorities which change the rules repeatedly in what the club might see increasingly as clear attempts to discriminate against it.
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I think that this could well be the case. It's far from a given that we'll win this particular case, but it might act as a shot across the PL's bows that they can't keep introducing new rules aimed specifically at restricting us.
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Well its being reported on ssn this morning by 2 tabloid pundits (one was winter, the other i think they said his name was cross?)

It was the latter i only caught saying everyone needs to stand against city for good of the game
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Funny isn't it but City are fighting to save the game from the Americans
 
Ric said:
City really needed to make an official statement, or at least brief their side to a friendly journalist, to counteract some of the nonsense like this that we’re going to see in the coming days.
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I've tried to look back at previous voting on new PL rules but it's hard to find exactly who has voted for/against/abstained on the 2021 regulations we're challenging. Interestingly, when it came to the specific rules regarding Newcastle's ownership and sponsorship we abstained citing that it was unlawful - so this has been building for some time and long before the 115 charges were brought against us. So I think any panic about this being a "last gasp" attempt to change something in that case is completely misplaced. This is entirely separate and something we've spent a long time building towards.

As it's an ongoing legal action, we are unlikely to make a comment. This has been leaked and the PL haven't made an official comment either.

We don't seem particularly concerned by external noise, we will do our battles where it matters.
 
blueparrot said:
Pretty sure for this stuff PR will be controlled by Soriano and clubs legal team.
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The buck will stop with Soriano but PR is nothing to do with legalities. It's part of marketing. We should have hired a top dollar PR firm to get out there and clean our image. It's what celebrities do when they are caught in scandals. Cost them millions but pays for itself.

If we aren't doing that then somebody needs to opent heir mouth and put our case out there. It's being reported that we just want to sign short deals for exhorbitant amounts.
 
M18CTID said:
The 10-12 clubs could be guesswork based on how many clubs voted in favour a few months back
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No doubt, Ric pointed out that it was 12-6 voted for them with 2 abstentions. But the only information that seems to have been leaked is City's application, so stating that he 'believes' it's 10 to 12 (why 10 to 12, why not a straight 12?) when he presumably has no info whatsoever beyond that is disingenuous at the very least.
 
Tomblue said:
Whatever the outcome of this and the November hearing the game that we fell in love with has been taken over by the greed of the old cartel.

The great unwashed are claiming that City are trying to run away with the league and make it uncompetitive. Lets not forget that there have been 31 seasons of the prem and united have won 13 of them, that's 41% to just one club. 51 teams have played in the prem since its inception and 7 have won it, that's 13%. It has never been competitive in the sense that a small few always win it.

Now that we are involved in this 'small few' this is no longer acceptable and the good of the game is at stake. The xenophobia on display portrayed as righteousness is sickening and I back the club all the way in fighting what is clear and orchestrated targeting of a club that simply doesn't have the right name and play in the right colours.
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The rags won 13 out of 31 and they have been shit for 10 years.
If it wasn't for City the league would be less competitive than it is
 
I think the case is basically asking "Is football a sport or a business"? If it's a business then any club should be allowed to spend what they want to improve that business and sink or swim based on their business acumen. If it's a sport then every competitor should arrive at the start line with only their sporting talents to be judged not their wealth.

Now, probably, since the demise of the players maximum wage in the 1960's football has drifted from a sport where football teams from Burnley, Ipswich, Derby, Preston, Wolverhampton, West Brom, Huddersfield etc could win the League to one where only the massively wealthy can win. i.e Tesco build a multi store and put all the (normal) corner shops out of business.

So, I'd argue that the Premier League is and was formed to be a money earning enterprise. It's a business where (location, location, location) only the big city teams can prosper and the smaller town teams have to accept that the 'Usain Bolt' teams are actually given a huge start every race and their role is to shake 'Usain Bolt's hand at the end of the race.

Finally, I'd accept every club getting to the start line on relatively equal terms but I do not accept a group of red topped clubs being given a 'start' in every race based on historic rather than current performance.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Yet again we've lost control of the narrative and the optics of this to the general public are poor.

Whoever is repsonsible for PR at our club should have been fired long ago.
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The Western main stream media is owned by the same corporations that own everything else of significance. There isn’t a PR Manager in the world gonna win that battle. That said, I agree with the sentiment and they don’t appear to even try which is unforgivable.
 
flb said:
I’d be amazed if it’s United , Liverpool , Arsenal , Spurs , Villa , Newcastle and Chelsea who have sided with the PL , those , aswell as City are the biggest losers if these sanctions are allowed to continue, I doubt it if it’s the likes of Wolves , Palace et al that have sided with City , but at the end of the day these restrictions affect all PL clubs , all City are doing is telling the PL to fuck off for everyone’s benefit aren’t they?, there seems to be a 50/50 split , I don’t see Everton or Forest voting against us , they’ve been shafted more than any club with these rules the PL have dreamt up. It’s one rule for all that City are after.
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I think some of us are guilty of believing the figures that the leak provided.
 
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